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Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:33 pm
by GOLDEN WING
moses of romania wrote:GOLDEN WING wrote:at 1300 i can with 4 bil in strike have 79Q strike
most have 1400 1 of my friends has 1500 so ur def is worthles sunels su have a seriosuly high Realm def lvl of 1300+
also whats ur ascended id?
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bad golden wing takeing adventage of someon comeing back tisk tisk

a farm is a farm.
also CyberBlade i can take great care of ur DMU
but seriously just get your Realm def lvl to 1300-1500 and a few bil planets in def and a ton of assasins 2bil + on lvl 1300 assasin or 1400 assasin and ur farm proof and amsser Proof
but that won't leave much room for income

ao lose lose situation.
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:32 pm
by cyberblade
Ok... lots of work to do. *sigh*
Thanks for the help. Fleets to 600k, charisma to 850, then physical stats to 1400 as short term goals (next couple months that is).
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:41 pm
by Kikaz
cyberblade wrote:Well, the first while no doubt... but 10 hours, 80 tril a turn, that's 1.6 quad? What defense do you need to protect that eventually? What are current top attack ratings?
100 quad defense from me at least.. I only build to 80q strike when I farm.
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:11 pm
by cyberblade
Kikaz wrote:cyberblade wrote:Well, the first while no doubt... but 10 hours, 80 tril a turn, that's 1.6 quad? What defense do you need to protect that eventually? What are current top attack ratings?
100 quad defense from me at least.. I only build to 80q strike when I farm.
Hey Kikaz
Hows AB doing nowadays?
Whatever happened to AR anyways?
Didn't I teach you how to farm ascended?

Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:04 pm
by Kikaz
cyberblade wrote:Kikaz wrote:cyberblade wrote:Well, the first while no doubt... but 10 hours, 80 tril a turn, that's 1.6 quad? What defense do you need to protect that eventually? What are current top attack ratings?
100 quad defense from me at least.. I only build to 80q strike when I farm.
Hey Kikaz
Hows AB doing nowadays?
Whatever happened to AR anyways?
Didn't I teach you how to farm ascended?

Hey.
It died in the server war, then was resurrected recently, other than that I really have no idea, I left them to create my own alliance which was in the top 10 for several weeks with 10 members before going into a 6 month war with Nemesis Empire, ending in a draw after that I got busy with real life and it died pretty much, so I turned over leadership and left it. Currently I'm a lone wolf with an application to Alpha pending.
I think we taught the rest of AR to farm ascended unless you taught me 3 and a half years ago.

Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:41 pm
by cyberblade
Kikaz wrote:cyberblade wrote:Kikaz wrote:cyberblade wrote:Well, the first while no doubt... but 10 hours, 80 tril a turn, that's 1.6 quad? What defense do you need to protect that eventually? What are current top attack ratings?
100 quad defense from me at least.. I only build to 80q strike when I farm.
Hey Kikaz
Hows AB doing nowadays?
Whatever happened to AR anyways?
Didn't I teach you how to farm ascended?

Hey.
It died in the server war, then was resurrected recently, other than that I really have no idea, I left them to create my own alliance which was in the top 10 for several weeks with 10 members before going into a 6 month war with Nemesis Empire, ending in a draw after that I got busy with real life and it died pretty much, so I turned over leadership and left it. Currently I'm a lone wolf with an application to Alpha pending.
I think we taught the rest of AR to farm ascended unless you taught me 3 and a half years ago.

The server war... ahh. I left before that started. Too bad.
Yeah, I remember doing some farming with you... Not too much though, and most of AR didn't because they didn't like being massed on main.
I need to farm again now, 2.9% growth rate sucks

GL with Alpha.
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:02 pm
by jabujabu
in my opinion, it is silly to build any feasible stats in ascended...it is too easy to lose everything you have built
here's an epic example :
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=154472&start=15also it helps to have lower rank, because you gain more turns (i think above 3000 in rank lets you gain 17 turns per turn...)
another thing i would say is income is absolutely useless in ascended and you can easily get your income back in less than 10 hits...that's less than 150 turns
yeah first get all your defense energy stats to 700 so that it becomes pretty hard to descend you...not sure if it's impossible though
and then get your charisma and fleets up...
and then focus on what you like to do on ascended...
blow up things and have great stats and have good rank... work all your physical levels to 1400-1500
descend people...get your ToC at least to 500 million
it should take no more than a week to get your CER and your defense levels to 700 even without a good farm list
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:28 am
by cyberblade
17 turns per turn? That's gone way up... Just dropped all weapons and covert, I'll see where I fall to and how many turns I get.
But yeah, I was remembering and thinking I should focus on offensive stats over defensive in any case.
Problem being I'm sure there are still some lists out there that match my ascended ID to my main...
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:53 am
by RoKeT
You could always drop your income by untraining planets...
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:04 am
by moses
Now Now RoKet where is the fun in that
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:13 am
by cyberblade
RoKeT wrote:You could always drop your income by untraining planets...
Or training 10 billion of them into a strike force?
Later this weekend, when I'm full on turns

Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:19 pm
by Dmonix
cyberblade wrote:RoKeT wrote:You could always drop your income by untraining planets...
Or training 10 billion of them into a strike force?
Later this weekend, when I'm full on turns

I'd think 10bil strike planets would be very appealing to some people out there, I wouldn't advise it
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:55 pm
by cyberblade
Dmonix wrote:cyberblade wrote:RoKeT wrote:You could always drop your income by untraining planets...
Or training 10 billion of them into a strike force?
Later this weekend, when I'm full on turns

I'd think 10bil strike planets would be very appealing to some people out there, I wouldn't advise it
Well, given my lower stats (Attack at 1200) the issue is that it will take about 10 billion to reach the attack levels I need... another 10 billion in covert so I can see to farm, and blow my turns... Also, I'd start growing faster than 2.9%. lol
Yeah, I know I'd lose my attack planets in retaliation... That never did stop me before. Or the guy I learned from... fremen. Is he still around?
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:26 pm
by jabujabu
cyberblade wrote:
Well, given my lower stats (Attack at 1200) the issue is that it will take about 10 billion to reach the attack levels I need... another 10 billion in covert so I can see to farm, and blow my turns... Also, I'd start growing faster than 2.9%. lol
Yeah, I know I'd lose my attack planets in retaliation... That never did stop me before. Or the guy I learned from... fremen. Is he still around?
haven't seen him in about 4 months...
anyways i'd recommend not having 10 bil in strike planets...you're not gonna get much out of farming people that have big defenses...those guys tend to mass you back anyways
and 1200 is definitely not good enough if you're planning to play ascended serious
more like 1300 + so you can have less stuff trained in strike
also selling weapons before you log off is a good way to lower your rank
Re: Coming back... can't remember what I should be building...
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:18 pm
by cyberblade
jabujabu wrote:cyberblade wrote:
Well, given my lower stats (Attack at 1200) the issue is that it will take about 10 billion to reach the attack levels I need... another 10 billion in covert so I can see to farm, and blow my turns... Also, I'd start growing faster than 2.9%. lol
Yeah, I know I'd lose my attack planets in retaliation... That never did stop me before. Or the guy I learned from... fremen. Is he still around?
haven't seen him in about 4 months...
anyways i'd recommend not having 10 bil in strike planets...you're not gonna get much out of farming people that have big defenses...those guys tend to mass you back anyways
and 1200 is definitely not good enough if you're planning to play ascended serious
more like 1300 + so you can have less stuff trained in strike
also selling weapons before you log off is a good way to lower your rank
Yeah... when I left 1200 was great =P
Too bad he's not around anymore, he was a ton of fun.
And yeah, getting attack to 1400 or so is probably my top priority for now, then assassin.
I'd always expect to lose all weapons, trained units and such after any ascended farming run. Probably better to start small though, with only a few bil.