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Re: Split thread about humanity, technology, viruses...
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:37 am
by Jim
Legendary Jimster wrote:Man Called Jim wrote:Legendary Jimster wrote:Man Called Jim wrote:Legendary Jimster wrote:Man Called Jim wrote:The future lies not with science but with art.
Pursuing Science to its ends will only lead to either un-fulfillment or destruction.
Pursuing Art leads only to joy and love.
People say science and intelligence is what sets us apart from the other inhabitants of the planet.
I would argue that our colossal range of emotions and ability to love sets us apart from anything else. We began evolving away from violence during the renascence and periods of art show our good side. When science takes over only violence follows.
Interesting perspective!
However, art has been more or less downfalling during the past 100 years in a general view. (well painting at least)
Correct, and we have a bigger capacity to kill millions of people than ever.
I'm sometimes wondering why did the vibes into painting moved from those wonderfully made paintings (Italian painters from XV-XVI-XVII centuries, painting during empires and absolute monarchies...and republics until early XXth century) to the horrendous crap generally observed from "contemporary geniuses" of painting during last 100 years.
I know I'm not really skilled into painting art, but I am sufficiently to notice that painting heroes of past > kids painting > recent "geniuses".
A lot of modern art is utter rubbish, but a lot of it has a deep meaning and soul.
But when i say Art i dont mean just paintings. I would put Music, drama, creative literature and even things like History and Philosophy.
The build up of technology has begun to ruin Music and the dramatic arts like film. Although I am a fan of technological music, i am not a fan or music that can be mass produced and that takes no skill to make.
Due to the educational swing towards the "Sciences" and the utility driven society, the general populous is pleased by simpler and simpler things. I shift is needed in the opposite direction to encourage people to think, analyze and create.
IQ does not matter, only your capacity to FEEL. Even the most idiot person can convey their emotions, even if it is not subtle. We should encourage people to do so.
I didn't mention "pop mu$ic" because I actually like it
However, I like old fashioned painting, creation and architecture.
I suppose there is an argument that the mass produced tosh is actually art. Lady Gaga's costumes are art i suppose. And the people who actually make the music need SOME creativity.
But I argue it is not the skill that makes something good art, but the meaning behind it.
Also, I suggest this thread is renamed to let it roam free. "Random debate" or something lol. I like to have free-roaming discussions.
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:42 am
by Legendary Apophis
I'm not really much into Lady Gaga, but I see what you mean.
Crazy costumes in clips to attract most attention/opinions possible.
I disagree about techs' bad effects to cinema.
It's technology that enabled Terminator, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Matrix, Stargate...
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:49 am
by Captain Teague
Re: man creates synthetic life....
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:50 am
by Jim
But I mean, if you picture your perfect world. Paradise. Heaven.
Whatever.
How important is technology in such a world? Is it somewhere you understand completely? Or is it just somewhere that makes you happy? Free from technological interference?
The idea of Heaven has never included technology before. Why should it now?
And is it not logical that we should be finding paradise?
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:53 am
by Thriller
This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:54 am
by Captain Teague
Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
you forgot to say heart of women too.
No need to be sexiest now.
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:56 am
by Legendary Apophis
Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
This thread is a splitting..
Anyway...if you don't like don't post.
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:56 am
by Thriller
O_Altair_O wrote:Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
you forgot to say heart of women too.
No need to be sexiest now.
SO it is written, so it shall be; you dare to defy the word of god?
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:01 am
by Captain Teague
Thriller wrote:O_Altair_O wrote:Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
you forgot to say heart of women too.
No need to be sexiest now.
SO it is written, so it shall be; you dare to defy the word of god?
Saying a powerful being created everything is a theory.Everything is and to be honest you cant prove god exist by the bible who someone wrote who ententionally(If thats a word
) done it as a theory then people started believing then others done the same and then others etc.
Its just rumors without proof.
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:02 am
by Thriller
O_Altair_O wrote:Thriller wrote:O_Altair_O wrote:Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
you forgot to say heart of women too.
No need to be sexiest now.
SO it is written, so it shall be; you dare to defy the word of god?
Saying a powerful being created everything is a theory.Everything is and to be honest you cant prove god exist by the bible who someone wrote who ententionally(If thats a word
) done it as a theory then people started believing then others done the same and then others etc.
Its just rumors without proof.
REligeous discussion, BAN PL0x....
K bai
It's hurts my feelings when they doubt my god
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:02 am
by Jim
Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
If religious people give no solid evidence for the existence of God, they should not demand proof they are wrong. Its like turning up to a cricket match without any stumps or bats then demanding to play and deciding you win because you cannot get out.
I refer to heaven in a more general sense.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/heaven6.
a place or state of supreme happiness: She made his life a heaven on earth.
But if you do not like my use of the word heaven then take the word Paradise instead.
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:02 am
by Legendary Apophis
O_Altair_O wrote:Thriller wrote:O_Altair_O wrote:Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
you forgot to say heart of women too.
No need to be sexiest now.
SO it is written, so it shall be; you dare to defy the word of god?
Saying a powerful being created everything is a theory.Everything is and to be honest you cant prove god exist by the bible who someone wrote who ententionally(If thats a word
) done it as a theory then people started believing then others done the same and then others etc.
Its just rumors without proof.
You cannot prove either that God doesn't exist...
It's never ending thing infact, as both sides claim other is worng.
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:04 am
by Jack
Thread hijacking by a mod is pathetic to say the least.
Last edited by Juliette on Monday June 07, 2010 12:41:18, edited 3 times in total.
Title altered to reflect developments.
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:05 am
by Thriller
Man Called Jim wrote:Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
If religious people give no solid evidence for the existence of God, they should not demand proof they are wrong. Its like turning up to a cricket match without any stumps or bats then demanding to play and deciding you win because you cannot get out.
I refer to heaven in a more general sense.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/heaven6.
a place or state of supreme happiness: She made his life a heaven on earth.
But if you do not like my use of the word heaven then take the word Paradise instead.
MOAR BLASPH3My
BAN Pl0x
Re: Random Debate (Free from topics, just let it rip!)
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:07 am
by Jim
Legendary Jimster wrote:O_Altair_O wrote:Thriller wrote:O_Altair_O wrote:Thriller wrote:This is the worst thread in this section.
Heaven is obviously; "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9).
Prove me wrong.....
you forgot to say heart of women too.
No need to be sexiest now.
SO it is written, so it shall be; you dare to defy the word of god?
Saying a powerful being created everything is a theory.Everything is and to be honest you cant prove god exist by the bible who someone wrote who ententionally(If thats a word
) done it as a theory then people started believing then others done the same and then others etc.
Its just rumors without proof.
You cannot prove either that God doesn't exist...
It's never ending thing infact, as both sides claim other is worng.
Also, does it really matter? Expression is art, Philosophy and Theology are outward expressions of whats inside. Whether you are right or not does not matter, what matters is that you believe in something.
Variety is the spice of life?
