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maybe because they are NOT English?!...or even British for that matter, they are German Jews, usurpers to the thrown who have murdered their way to power.
maybe because they are murdering drug running scum?!
how about because they don't serve the public good?!


need i go on?

[KMA]Avenger wrote:maybe because they are NOT English?!...or even British for that matter, they are German Jews, usurpers to the thrown who have murdered their way to power.
maybe because they are murdering drug running scum?!
how about because they don't serve the public good?!


need i go on?

yeh but the last truely british king was centuries ago

i dunno, i get the basic premise and origins of the royalty...tribe alpha male at its very deepest roots

but they dont exactly do anything important for the british armed forces (except borrow helicopters for parties etc ofc) so why do we bother keeping them around?

The british monarchy still has operational control of the armed forces should they wish to force the issue

at least according to a strict interpretation of uk law & the loyalty oath taken by armed forces members

Kit-Fox wrote:The british monarchy still has operational control of the armed forces should they wish to force the issue

at least according to a strict interpretation of uk law & the loyalty oath taken by armed forces members

oh i know they have a million medals and military titles each

and a few of them might be able to fly a helicopter (although the fact that they are royals is the only reason why they would be accepted into any pilot training program)

but...i would wager that I, with my rts game training and having read The Art of War, possess more tactical knowledge and talent than the entire royal family

Londo Mollari wrote:

Kit-Fox wrote:The british monarchy still has operational control of the armed forces should they wish to force the issue

at least according to a strict interpretation of uk law & the loyalty oath taken by armed forces members

oh i know they have a million medals and military titles each

and a few of them might be able to fly a helicopter (although the fact that they are royals is the only reason why they would be accepted into any pilot training program)

but...i would wager that I, with my rts game training and having read The Art of War, possess more tactical knowledge and talent than the entire royal family

Quite possible, but the members of the uk armed forces both dont swear a fealty/loyalty oath to you & the law doesnt allow you take exclusive control of the amred forces and all assets as you wish.

Mind you it'd be a very brave monarch indeed that tried as it would should the problems of our system of government (a constitutional monarchy) which would split totally as the monarchy & houses of parliment struggled with each other for control

@Londo:
Tony Robinson of Blackadder fame, traced the true English Royal Bloodline to Australia, i forget the guys name, but he should rightfully be king according to British heritage...i think its British Heritage. i saw the program made by the BBC on YouTube well over a year ago.


@KF:
mate, the armed forces swear to defend the queen (or king) and the realm...their oath of allegiance says nothing about either the civil population or parliament. and as far as i am aware, even talking about removing the Windsors, or should i say, the Saxe Coburg Gotha from the thrown or even criticising them is classed as treason and punishable by hanging.

actually the crime of high treason, which covered murder of the monarch or the burning of fleet ships, is no longer a hangable offence

also, if you follow the line allowing for catholic heirs to legitimately claim the throne, then theres a Duke in Germany (Bavaria i believe) who is the rightful king lol

its interesting...in a world so hung up on sexual/racial/religious/any other discernable difference equality, the british monarchy is passed along the first born male child in a family of protestants

both sexist and intolerent of catholicism

Having been there & done that i'm well aware of the oath the members of the military take KMA. It was in fact my very point, that they swear to obey & follow etc the current reigning monarch, rather than any duly elected civil leadership.

However you will find the the civil leadership which is duly elected currently holds the power of the 'Crown' in that they are empowered to act on behalf of the Crown. This has now gone on for so long that should any UK monarch try to take direct control of the armed forces a schism will between the civil & monarchy powers will occur with both fighting for control.

Translation : Most likely outcome would be another civil war

EDIT: Also Londo, High Treason is infact the sole crime you can still be publically hung for Although I believe only during a time of war (by that i mean an offical declaration of war has being made.)

EDIT2: As for claims of legitamacy to the Throne, you'll probably find that most of the european royal familes have some claim on each others thrones thanks to all the marriage pacts etc that were made to solidify alliances.

yes the majority of royal families in europe are bonded to each other in some form

as for treason

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treas ... gdom#Today

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/uk ... 80037_en_4

so, no, you can only be sentenced to life...and by life we all know that only means 20 years in jail

[KMA]Avenger wrote:maybe because they are NOT English?!...or even British for that matter, they are German Jews, usurpers to the thrown who have murdered their way to power.
maybe because they are murdering drug running scum?!
how about because they don't serve the public good?!


need i go on?

Since when have they done the public any good?

And, guess what english people arnt even english!

We are norman, viking, scottish, german, a mix of all invaders who invaded Brittany long ago/intermarried for the sake of peace.

and you could say that all Asians are not Asians. example, the japs are not really Japs and neither are the Koreans, they all Chinese!
English have been English for hundreds of years. so, in order not to start arguing about irrelevant details, lets please call them English.


as for having done any good, well, they do like to pray on each other as well as the rest of us...is that classed as a good deed?

[KMA]Avenger wrote:and you could say that all Asians are not Asians. example, the japs are not really Japs and neither are the Koreans, they all Chinese!
English have been English for hundreds of years. so, in order not to start arguing about irrelevant details, lets please call them English.


as for having done any good, well, they do like to pray on each other as well as the rest of us...is that classed as a good deed?

The royal family is really owns a figure head position. They serve no purpose except to put some checks and balances within politics, that being, Australian and english politics, also being a media darling, other than that, it is merely tradition.

I was making a point, with my genealogy remark.
We recognise people, not by heritage now, but being a citizen and sovereignty to the nation. That is what makes them Brittish.

It does not matter. With mix heritages and the viability of travel, your 'racial heritage' i.e if you were a Saxon, it does not matter.

If one a royal married a coloured person(not a racist term), and he was english, and he became a prince, I wouldnt care. That is how royalty is made, through marriage.

Besides, the prince of wales was german. That was 1799. With this during the French revolution alot of French came to england. And had families.

200 years right? well no. There is no 'pure blood' race.

Exception being japan where 90% are pure blood japanese.


So your argument that the royal family is not english, is irreverent.

see, this is what i was trying to avoid, a discussion about the genealogy which IS irrelevant to THIS discussion.

the fact of the matter is this, they pass themselves off as being "English" when they are not even British. they've gone to great lengths to hide their true identities to the point that they changed their name from Saxe Coburg Gotha to Windsor prior to the outbreak of WW2 because they didn't want the people to suddenly turn their anger on them....they've even ousted the king saying his abdication was because he wanted to marry the twice divorced Wallis Simpson...what a crock, the man was an ardent and publicly admitted supporter of Hitler and the Nazi's....


they are scum who have no qualms about praying on the public or their own blood. they have changed history and hidden the peoples resentment towards them, even to the point where the history books claim queen Victoria was popular when in fact she was hated and always hissed and jeered when she was in public.
i've run numerous searches on the net and having a VERY hard time trying to establish some facts why she was hated so i can show you. i know why she was hated, the people were taxed to death and forced to work in factories, even children were forced to slave away all because of her...but as i said, the history books make her out to be one of the most popular monarchs the country has ever known.


edit;

alo the bit about they have no real power is not true. whats not known publicly is that parliament has no power. parliament executes the power granted to them by the monarch, though the monarch doesn't execute the use of power (if you follow me?). in this way the monarch stays immune to public anger and wrath when things happen they don't like, or do you seriously think they would take the chance and suffer another Cromwell?


edit 2, remember, this is a family who have been practising incest and inbreeding for hundreds of years, to the point they now have to marry outside of their direct bloodline in order to have heirs. even Diana had said after giving birth to harry that she felt she was no longer needed or wanted after she had given birth to "an heir and as spare". once this bastard bloodline had got what they wanted from her they went to work doing what they do best...destroying people.

the fact of the matter is this, they pass themselves off as being "English" when they are not even British.

Check their passports...

anything else, does not matter.

LOL!