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Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:54 am
by ƒëmmë ƒatalë
so in other words its a forced Empire set up. and will only serve to limit things further

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:33 am
by Brdavs
I maintain that admin should throw the lone wolf alliances a bone in form of a bonus, like he did to lone wolf induviduals.

You can see how houses are shaping up into exclusive clubs allready with only a fraction of the 400+ alliances in the frey.
And the number will drop once the 5 days are up and kicking starts.

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:43 am
by Clarkey
I dislike the fact that once the 5 days is up which will be soon that you can't attack someone else in another alliance that happens to be in the same house. It's a force situation that i don't like.

Today i've come across a situation where I feel like starting a vendetta, only to find out they are in the same house. So for me to be able to start this vendetta then i'd have to leave the house to do it?

Me thinks Lone Wolf is suddenly a good idea again! #-o

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:16 am
by MEZZANINE
Brdavs wrote:I maintain that admin should throw the lone wolf alliances a bone in form of a bonus, like he did to lone wolf induviduals.

You can see how houses are shaping up into exclusive clubs allready with only a fraction of the 400+ alliances in the frey.
And the number will drop once the 5 days are up and kicking starts.


My thoughts exactly, and echoed by many before this update came out. These houses are an Empire update giving extra bonuses to those who need them the least.

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:12 am
by ƒëmmë ƒatalë
how does house effect the bonuses from planets?

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:06 pm
by MaxSterling
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:how does house effect the bonuses from planets?

The houses have no direct effects on planets.

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:29 pm
by Wepwaet
MaxSterling wrote:
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:how does house effect the bonuses from planets?

The houses have no direct effects on planets.


I wouldn't say thats strictly true... I believe, but may be wrong, that the atk and def house bonuses are added before planets are factored in. Which means that they'd slightly decrease the number of supers/mercs you need to get you full planet bonuses.


Edit: So its a direct effect on their effiency but not a direct effect on their stats.

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:42 pm
by MaxSterling
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:how does house effect the bonuses from planets?

The houses have no direct effects on planets.


I wouldn't say thats strictly true... I believe, but may be wrong, that the atk and def house bonuses are added before planets are factored in. Which means that they'd slightly decrease the number of supers/mercs you need to get you full planet bonuses.


Edit: So its a direct effect on their effiency but not a direct effect on their stats.

Why do you think I specifically used the word "direct"? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
The houses only affect the number of units trained to get the bonus, but it has no direct effect on the planets themselves.

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:44 pm
by Wepwaet
MaxSterling wrote:
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:how does house effect the bonuses from planets?

The houses have no direct effects on planets.


I wouldn't say thats strictly true... I believe, but may be wrong, that the atk and def house bonuses are added before planets are factored in. Which means that they'd slightly decrease the number of supers/mercs you need to get you full planet bonuses.


Edit: So its a direct effect on their effiency but not a direct effect on their stats.

Why do you think I specifically used the word "direct"? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)


Maybe learn to read... it does have a direct effect... just not to stats #-o

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:45 pm
by MaxSterling
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:how does house effect the bonuses from planets?

The houses have no direct effects on planets.


I wouldn't say thats strictly true... I believe, but may be wrong, that the atk and def house bonuses are added before planets are factored in. Which means that they'd slightly decrease the number of supers/mercs you need to get you full planet bonuses.


Edit: So its a direct effect on their effiency but not a direct effect on their stats.

Why do you think I specifically used the word "direct"? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)


Maybe learn to read... it does have a direct effect... just not to stats #-o

That would be considered an indirect effect... #-o

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:02 pm
by Wepwaet
MaxSterling wrote:
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:how does house effect the bonuses from planets?

The houses have no direct effects on planets.


I wouldn't say thats strictly true... I believe, but may be wrong, that the atk and def house bonuses are added before planets are factored in. Which means that they'd slightly decrease the number of supers/mercs you need to get you full planet bonuses.


Edit: So its a direct effect on their effiency but not a direct effect on their stats.

Why do you think I specifically used the word "direct"? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)


Maybe learn to read... it does have a direct effect... just not to stats #-o

That would be considered an indirect effect... #-o

A planets cap* is determined by the persons natural strike, hence it has a direct effect on planets...

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:19 pm
by MaxSterling
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
Wepwaet wrote:
MaxSterling wrote:
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:how does house effect the bonuses from planets?

The houses have no direct effects on planets.


I wouldn't say thats strictly true... I believe, but may be wrong, that the atk and def house bonuses are added before planets are factored in. Which means that they'd slightly decrease the number of supers/mercs you need to get you full planet bonuses.


Edit: So its a direct effect on their effiency but not a direct effect on their stats.

Why do you think I specifically used the word "direct"? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)


Maybe learn to read... it does have a direct effect... just not to stats #-o

That would be considered an indirect effect... #-o

A planets cap* is determined by the persons natural strike, hence it has a direct effect on planets...

LMAO... the house bonus directly affects the number of units needed to get a specific power level and indirectly affects planets because of it. If the bonus was to increase a planet by x%, then that would be a direct effect. :roll:

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:59 pm
by Wepwaet
You look at it your way and i'll look at it mine. Either way we've spammed the thread enough.

I think we both agree that the whether directly or indirectly the house bonuses don't make up for planets and MSs being completely marginalized. ;)

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:43 pm
by Robe
BMMJ13 wrote:I believe there's a bug with the house leadership.
Currently it started with 6 days worth and is adding to it for how long an alliance has been in the house, while I believe it should be subtracting. This basically makes it where an alliance can never be kicked as the longer they are in it the longer needs to be waited to kick so it never goes down.


1. Second in charge should be able to see the Leaders section but cant...
2. Can any of the other House Leaders confirm if the count down is bugged?

Re: Alliance Houses - Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:24 am
by lone dragon
Sorry if I dont get this but so if your in alliance with the same attribute say Nemisis and DDE having (Chaos) they cant fight? or if there is another alliance of DDE with a different house they have to fight? It seems a bit confusing you could end up with weak alliance up against some of the best in the game.