Alliance Bank - Discussion

To discuss, debate, suggest improvements on, or ask to rollback, enhancements released to the game.
User avatar
Juliette
Verified
The Queen
Posts: 31802
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:57 pm
Race: Royalty
ID: 4323
Alternate name(s): Cersei Lannister
Location: Ultima Thule

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

Tekki wrote:Um no it's not that much :)

Depending on the bank size - take yours for example approximately would have gone from 75t to about 200-250trillion with spending about 20-30t of the alliance naq.
True. I made the error of taking my total bank and using the 1m% as multiplier. Whoops. My natural bank is just 2.4T.

As for the million %, I spoke to someone whose alliance bank contained over 2Q Naq. Either I was fooled, or that could get you a 1m% increase of your natural bank. (Okay, granted, that would probably max out at about 8Q on someone with a 60B+ income.) :-k


Or am I still missing the point? If I am, sorry for my mistake Tekki.. :oops: I have a lot of those lately.
Image
LegendaryA
Forum Expert
Posts: 1340
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:19 am
Alliance: Lost Legends
ID: 7889
Contact:

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

I really hope there's a limit to bank increase and that it doesn't go as people said here, because people who spent years to PPT twice a week and ascend, or/and who bought many SS/USS (especially if they are lone wolves) will be equalled by people who had tiny bank for some reason and sooner or later will be close to catch them up without having worked at all on their bank prior to update.
Temp account.
Spoiler
Image
Image
>>Image <<
Image
'Which country are you from?' [Poll]
Spoiler
~~New World Order (Novus Ordo Mundi) is bs. Novus ordo seclorum means "New World of the Ages".~~
RepliMagni
Forum Addict
Posts: 4158
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:29 am
Alliance: Loner :P
Race: NanoTiMaster
ID: 1908448

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

Leg Apophis wrote:I really hope there's a limit to bank increase and that it doesn't go as people said here, because people who spent years to PPT twice a week and ascend, or/and who bought many SS/USS (especially if they are lone wolves) will be equalled by people who had tiny bank for some reason and sooner or later will be close to catch them up without having worked at all.



So ppting twice a week is work? :lol:

This update actually gives newer accounts the chance to catch up without having to spend on USS or lose their own market turns.

And as Tekki says, its a boost, but its hardly millions of percents....
Image
LegendaryA
Forum Expert
Posts: 1340
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:19 am
Alliance: Lost Legends
ID: 7889
Contact:

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

RepliMagni wrote:
Leg Apophis wrote:I really hope there's a limit to bank increase and that it doesn't go as people said here, because people who spent years to PPT twice a week and ascend, or/and who bought many SS/USS (especially if they are lone wolves) will be equalled by people who had tiny bank for some reason and sooner or later will be close to catch them up without having worked at all.



So ppting twice a week is work? :lol:

Some people decided to spend their MTs on something else, and thus chose another way to go. Don't see why those people (unless they bought SS/USS of course) would benefit from what the others did, without actually doing it.
If you spend your MTs on merlins or on ATs don't see why afterwards you would benefit from bank increase, also, it kinda nullifies the use of bank increase from market, or if you prefer, creates a gap between lone wolves and people within alliances regarding bank increase.
Last edited by LegendaryA on Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
Temp account.
Spoiler
Image
Image
>>Image <<
Image
'Which country are you from?' [Poll]
Spoiler
~~New World Order (Novus Ordo Mundi) is bs. Novus ordo seclorum means "New World of the Ages".~~
User avatar
Juliette
Verified
The Queen
Posts: 31802
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:57 pm
Race: Royalty
ID: 4323
Alternate name(s): Cersei Lannister
Location: Ultima Thule

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

Leg Apophis wrote:I really hope there's a limit to bank increase and that it doesn't go as people said here, because people who spent years to PPT twice a week and ascend, or/and who bought many SS/USS (especially if they are lone wolves) will be equalled by people who had tiny bank for some reason and sooner or later will be close to catch them up without having worked at all on their bank prior to update.
Well, check your bank, I'd say.
Besides, that's a rather pointless argument to make, there. :?
Image
Tekki
Forum Addict
Posts: 4332
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:37 pm
ID: 0

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

The point is that some alliances can upgrade a LOT. That's no secret. If they spend all the naq in the bank.

Let's say they have 150trillion (I do not believe anyone COULD have 2quad in the in game alliance bank without ... dubious methods.) Then yes they could upgrade the banks to about 2quad, IF they spent it all.

However most alliances have less in the bank.
Spoiler
Initial masser on Field Marshal's 120t defence and on Rodwolf's 177t defence.

The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 178,947,245,996,720 damage on Tekki's forces!

The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 3 damage on Tekki's forces!
Jedi~Tank wrote:@ADMINS- ALL ADMINS, this is the absolute worst game forum I have ever seen (this sentiment is shared by many) It is amazing how ya;ll can go from good job to complete garbage in no time at all.

Jedi~Tank
A sentiment I can agree with, except some of them have never done a good job. For further details, PM me INGAME Id 9095.
---
Image
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image Image
Image Image
LegendaryA
Forum Expert
Posts: 1340
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:19 am
Alliance: Lost Legends
ID: 7889
Contact:

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

My point was that lone wolves who PPTed twice a week/used market bank increase/bought SS-USS will be disadvantaged compared to people within alliances who now will have a much bigger bank, no matter what they did before the update.
That's why I think it should be limited...
Temp account.
Spoiler
Image
Image
>>Image <<
Image
'Which country are you from?' [Poll]
Spoiler
~~New World Order (Novus Ordo Mundi) is bs. Novus ordo seclorum means "New World of the Ages".~~
Tekki
Forum Addict
Posts: 4332
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:37 pm
ID: 0

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

Leg Apophis wrote:My point was that lone wolves who PPTed twice a week/used market bank increase/bought SS-USS will be disadvantaged compared to people within alliances who now will have a much bigger bank, no matter what they did before the update.
That's why I think it should be limited...

LOL if you ask really nicely you can get into an alliance before they do the upgrades on the bank and there you go, instant bank for you even when you leave.

Hell, I might even accept payment to get into Delta before I do more upgrades. :P
Spoiler
Initial masser on Field Marshal's 120t defence and on Rodwolf's 177t defence.

The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 178,947,245,996,720 damage on Tekki's forces!

The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 3 damage on Tekki's forces!
Jedi~Tank wrote:@ADMINS- ALL ADMINS, this is the absolute worst game forum I have ever seen (this sentiment is shared by many) It is amazing how ya;ll can go from good job to complete garbage in no time at all.

Jedi~Tank
A sentiment I can agree with, except some of them have never done a good job. For further details, PM me INGAME Id 9095.
---
Image
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image Image
Image Image
LegendaryA
Forum Expert
Posts: 1340
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:19 am
Alliance: Lost Legends
ID: 7889
Contact:

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

Tekki wrote:
Leg Apophis wrote:My point was that lone wolves who PPTed twice a week/used market bank increase/bought SS-USS will be disadvantaged compared to people within alliances who now will have a much bigger bank, no matter what they did before the update.
That's why I think it should be limited...

LOL if you ask really nicely you can get into an alliance before they do the upgrades on the bank and there you go, instant bank for you even when you leave.

Hell, I might even accept payment to get into Delta before I do more upgrades. :P

I'm not a lone wolf. :razz:
Temp account.
Spoiler
Image
Image
>>Image <<
Image
'Which country are you from?' [Poll]
Spoiler
~~New World Order (Novus Ordo Mundi) is bs. Novus ordo seclorum means "New World of the Ages".~~
RepliMagni
Forum Addict
Posts: 4158
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:29 am
Alliance: Loner :P
Race: NanoTiMaster
ID: 1908448

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

Indeed. There's already people paying for the privilege....

Besides pops, lone wolves now get 10% attack and def bonus.....they can't complain too much. :lol:
Image
Tekki
Forum Addict
Posts: 4332
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:37 pm
ID: 0

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

RepliMagni wrote:Indeed. There's already people paying for the privilege....

Besides pops, lone wolves now get 10% attack and def bonus.....they can't complain too much. :lol:

They get 10% covert and defence bonus ;)
Spoiler
Initial masser on Field Marshal's 120t defence and on Rodwolf's 177t defence.

The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 178,947,245,996,720 damage on Tekki's forces!

The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 3 damage on Tekki's forces!
Jedi~Tank wrote:@ADMINS- ALL ADMINS, this is the absolute worst game forum I have ever seen (this sentiment is shared by many) It is amazing how ya;ll can go from good job to complete garbage in no time at all.

Jedi~Tank
A sentiment I can agree with, except some of them have never done a good job. For further details, PM me INGAME Id 9095.
---
Image
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image Image
Image Image
RepliMagni
Forum Addict
Posts: 4158
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:29 am
Alliance: Loner :P
Race: NanoTiMaster
ID: 1908448

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

Did that change or did I completely make up a lone wolf bonus? :lol:

Anyway, the alliance bank seems to be working as it should be.....and the repairing weps and ppt will certainly add some more strategy later on in the game :razz:
Image
Tekki
Forum Addict
Posts: 4332
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:37 pm
ID: 0

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=169525 :P

It did change though during beta testing
Spoiler
Initial masser on Field Marshal's 120t defence and on Rodwolf's 177t defence.

The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 178,947,245,996,720 damage on Tekki's forces!

The forces of Rodwolf fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 3 damage on Tekki's forces!
Jedi~Tank wrote:@ADMINS- ALL ADMINS, this is the absolute worst game forum I have ever seen (this sentiment is shared by many) It is amazing how ya;ll can go from good job to complete garbage in no time at all.

Jedi~Tank
A sentiment I can agree with, except some of them have never done a good job. For further details, PM me INGAME Id 9095.
---
Image
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image Image
Image Image
BenjaminMS
Tollan
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:20 am
Alliance: ~Leaf Village~
Race: Balancer
ID: 1907529
Alternate name(s): TUHD (Bioware forums)
Location: Stuck between real life and the other end of a Stargate

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

RepliMagni wrote:Did that change or did I completely make up a lone wolf bonus? :lol:

Anyway, the alliance bank seems to be working as it should be.....and the repairing weps and ppt will certainly add some more strategy later on in the game :razz:


Yep, you made one up :lol: #-o
As for the bank itself... seems to be working as it should. :D

@ Tekki: don't confuse the poor boy more with older facts will you? ;)


j/k
Image
Currently ingame known as BenMS

Goblin: "I like your boots."
Sorcerer: "That's because you don't have any. The emotion is called envy."
Spoiler
/smile at the green grass,
smile at the sun,
smile at the roses,
before they're gone/


BenjaminMS - 'A thief of roses'
[TL] Renegadze zegt:
yeah definately makes more sense you hitting
and I have no DMU as you keep robbing it
MERC 1 zegt:
shuld not leave it out
any way you cant prove nothing
[TL] Michael/BenjaminMS zegt:
meh Rene, just find a few 0-def farms with 300+ tril DMU out...
MERC 1 zegt:
cool you two take it then i will hit you
User avatar
R8
Forum Elder
Posts: 2060
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:40 pm
Alliance: TL Leader

Re: Alliance Bank - Discussion

i think admin and some of you may have failed to see the possible exploits of the other purchases.

yes you can spend all day doing 1% increases to the allaince bank but ther real problems are the other 2.

repairing all defence weapons for the alliance needs to be limited to 1-2 per week. if there is no limit it will make massing almost impossible. if someone starts massing your allaince the leader/2ic if they are online can just repair weaposn all day long and make massing ineffective. at the same time you can rotate your leadership to ensure someone is always online to be on "watch" and repair allaince weapons.

the same thing can be used for the alliance ppt. you can just use up to 12 hours ppt in one go until all your allaince mates log in to prepare for war or merlin planets or watever.

needs to be changed and limited to 1-2 per week on each one. otherwise too exploitable in my view.
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
Image
Spoiler
Military Experience 1,xxx,138,430,217 Ranked: 1
Naquadah Stolen 8,xxx,795,393,564,617
Juliette wrote: Cheapo. You shouldn't go for anything under $100Billion, Gohanman. ;)
Check out my greatest hit
http://stargatewars.herebegames.com/vie ... 0&t=151693
My 2nd greatest hit
http://stargatewars.herebegames.com/vie ... 1&t=188473
Post Reply

Return to “Discussion on Enhancements (ones already released)”