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Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:07 am
by Clarkey
RoKeT wrote:Sorry but if you can't sign in and reaply it then screw ya you don't deserve to play anyways lol
What a stupid comment.

The only reason people are against this because they don't want to sit there turn after turn for 4 days or more waiting and preying for a missed PPT instead of 2 days.

People now do that and then right at the last minute the person banks or reapplies their PPT and that's very frustrating for the person that's been watching it 48 turns a day for 2 days, imagine the frustration after 4 days.

I don't see any genuine argument against this.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:12 am
by Buddha
Clarkey wrote:
RoKeT wrote:Sorry but if you can't sign in and reaply it then screw ya you don't deserve to play anyways lol
What a stupid comment.

The only reason people are against this because they don't want to sit there turn after turn for 4 days or more waiting and preying for a missed PPT instead of 2 days.

People now do that and then right at the last minute the person banks or reapplies their PPT and that's very frustrating for the person that's been watching it 48 turns a day for 2 days, imagine the frustration after 4 days.

I don't see any genuine argument against this.


Esactly it has nothing to do with being lazy for asking for this but to do it actually is benefit the game.

Iƒrit wrote:what he is saying is you only get 1h per use of alliance PPT so you have to do it 12 times to get the max of 12 hours, so it not stacking would be a joke...

i see your point, but i still say PPT isnt broke, it dont need fixing...


And hey your not Fixing it your improving it and improving something thats not broken to make it better is always a good idea. Whats not a good idea is to fix something that works.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:16 am
by Iƒrit
what we have works, its doesnt need fixing or changing or however you wanna spin it, its unnecessary. You cant reapply PPT in 2 days hit vacation thats its intention...

edit -
Clarkey wrote:I don't see any genuine argument against this.

and i dont see one for it, your point?

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:20 am
by MaxSterling
We should be encouraging activity, not inactivity. I love my naq, but I'm not THAT greedy. one 2-day PPT is good enough amount of naq for me. Stacking PPT just encourages inactivity. If you can't set a PPT for a time that you know you will be around, then don't set it. It takes all but 30 seconds to reset a PPT. If you can't login for 4 days straight... go on vacation mode.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:33 am
by Buddha
MaxSterling wrote:We should be encouraging activity, not inactivity. I love my naq, but I'm not THAT greedy. one 2-day PPT is good enough amount of naq for me. Stacking PPT just encourages inactivity. If you can't set a PPT for a time that you know you will be around, then don't set it. It takes all but 30 seconds to reset a PPT. If you can't login for 4 days straight... go on vacation mode.


Now that i do not agree about the fact is it might help players to be active instead of having to VAC i mean some people just don't bother to come back sometimes because of it and its a good idea and it will bring something far better into the game than NOX did.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:24 am
by RoKeT
I think this Idea is Useless, and i'm not a PPT hunter, I just know that you to me this would encourage not checking my account but for four days... it's just not worth it I've always gone on PPT five mins after turn change teh first time, so that gives me 5 mins to go on for the 2nd time... that is more then enough time...

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:37 am
by Buddha
RoKeT wrote:I think this Idea is Useless, and i'm not a PPT hunter, I just know that you to me this would encourage not checking my account but for four days... it's just not worth it I've always gone on PPT five mins after turn change teh first time, so that gives me 5 mins to go on for the 2nd time... that is more then enough time...


Well for me it would mean nothing as i always log in during ppt to check mails and alliance and so on.

But I do find it usefull and it would mean we could keep players who is only gone for 3 to 4 days instead of seeing them vac and therefore not able to contribute to their alliance or friends and so on.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:41 am
by RoKeT
I think personally we should get rid of Vaca all together too, makes the game boring aswell...

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:06 am
by Buddha
RoKeT wrote:I think personally we should get rid of Vaca all together too, makes the game boring aswell...


And Nox when your at it :P

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:44 am
by MaxSterling
Nimras wrote:Now that i do not agree about the fact is it might help players to be active instead of having to VAC i mean some people just don't bother to come back sometimes because of it and its a good idea and it will bring something far better into the game than NOX did.

If they don't come back, then yes... it's bad because we may lose another player forever... but at the same time, if they're not that active in the first place we only lose a farm. I could care less about losing a farm. It helps me get through the rest of the players quicker to find the good naq hits, then that's a good thing. Vacationed accounts also don't count towards G&R range, AFAIK. If 5G&R were harder to attain, that would be better for the game.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:01 am
by Buddha
MaxSterling wrote:
Nimras wrote:Now that i do not agree about the fact is it might help players to be active instead of having to VAC i mean some people just don't bother to come back sometimes because of it and its a good idea and it will bring something far better into the game than NOX did.

If they don't come back, then yes... it's bad because we may lose another player forever... but at the same time, if they're not that active in the first place we only lose a farm. I could care less about losing a farm. It helps me get through the rest of the players quicker to find the good naq hits, then that's a good thing. Vacationed accounts also don't count towards G&R range, AFAIK. If 5G&R were harder to attain, that would be better for the game.


Well as far i am concerned its a good idea and would be a good thing to put in place lets go :P.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:56 am
by Sarevok
Nimras wrote:ahh thank you for reminding me Ifrit Alliance PPT SHOULD NOT STACK EITHER. Just like Ascention will it remove all minuts from your own ppts and start on a fresh.
So, your telling me, I PPT for the weekend, my alliance leader adds some PPT time with the alliance PPT, cause some people are being massed, i come back after the weekend, to find my 48 hours became 12? I must disagree on that...

TBH, I'm divided. It would be nice for long weekends where you can PPT the whole time, and not need to PPT. But it also means reduced chances of catching PPT ends. Yeah sure, there's more saved up, but it also means more watching, and less chance of missing.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:10 am
by Buddha
Sarevok wrote:
Nimras wrote:ahh thank you for reminding me Ifrit Alliance PPT SHOULD NOT STACK EITHER. Just like Ascention will it remove all minuts from your own ppts and start on a fresh.
So, your telling me, I PPT for the weekend, my alliance leader adds some PPT time with the alliance PPT, cause some people are being massed, i come back after the weekend, to find my 48 hours became 12? I must disagree on that...

TBH, I'm divided. It would be nice for long weekends where you can PPT the whole time, and not need to PPT. But it also means reduced chances of catching PPT ends. Yeah sure, there's more saved up, but it also means more watching, and less chance of missing.


Actually if we let all PPT stack then it would not change anything in reality.

Because the fact is all exambles given here is something you can do now without stacking if they stacked the result would be the same but less hasle.

And i would actually love it especially here when i on friday leaves to visit my mom so i didn't have to log in with my mobile phone to renew PPT as it cost money on the data trafic which was one of my many reasons as then i could do it and come home when it ends without worries.

Nothing to do with being lazy but it would mean alot for the game play and for the users.

It is a improvement of the system thats it.

And as Clarkey says most that is against it are those who waste 48 hours to sit and hope people miss their ppt now they have to sit longer and hope and i would bet people still will miss ppt and if they did more would be out so i guess their escuse of the ones wanting this update are lazy actually is because they them self are lazy they do not want to waite longer lol.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:10 am
by [BoT] Jason
Sarevok wrote:TBH, I'm divided. It would be nice for long weekends.
Vacation mode....If your life gets in the way then please dont expect to get free resources. Pause the game and go sort it out.

Re: PPT update

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:16 am
by Sarevok
Jason... wrote:
Sarevok wrote:TBH, I'm divided. It would be nice for long weekends.
Vacation mode....If your life gets in the way then please dont expect to get free resources. Pause the game and go sort it out.
And PPT is...

Besides, PPT allows me to attack the moment before i activate. Vacation i can't attack or spy or farm for 24 hours. In other words, if i vacation for 4 days, and need to wait a 5th, it's almost a whole week knocked out.