So why do we pray?

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Re: So why do we pray?

Well, I will tell you this,

I would rather believe that in this world we were in fact created by a higher/superior being, than to think for any second, that I came from pond cum or whatever else science says that over a billion years we evolved.

If in fact we were created, and such possible things are true, wouldnt you like to ever say thank you to him. Prayers dont ever have to be about being selfish.

If i prayed and asked for my wife to be healed vs. god give me strength to get thru this soccer game, which in fact is selfish.

I have prayed, and at times in my life 100's of times a day, most of them for other people though. Then if by chance those prayers or even one out of ten, get answered, its always nice to say thanks.

There are some people that believe their very next day, their very next breath comes from the ability that God allows it. And then some of them go blow up a car bomb killing 2-30 people or some even go even against the very word they believe in and molest some young boys.

Those people you really have to pray for.
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Is not prayer a form of self-reflection? Essentially you reflect or consider aspects of your life and are seeking an answer or correction to something.
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Re: So why do we pray?

Travis Dane wrote:There are some people that believe their very next day, their very next breath comes from the ability that God allows it. And then some of them go blow up a car bomb killing 2-30 people or some even go even against the very word they believe in and molest some young boys.

Those people you really have to pray for.


No, those are people who should be locked up, or put down humanely.


We've had these religious debates many times, more murder and war have been committed in the names of various gods than can ever be justified, god is just an excuse, some people use it in a way to preach a good set of morals to live by ( nice idea but against human nature and mostly futile ), some people simply propagate the beliefs they were indoctrinated with ( a pointless cycle ), and some use to shirk responsibility for their evil actions ( Such as your suicide bombers who claim to be doing gods will, and criminals who claim all actions are part of some grand plan, denying free will to excuse personal accountability for the things they have done ).


I dont believe in gods, but even if I did and somehow the existence of a god was scientifically proven I still wouldn't follow a religion. None of the religions even claim to have been started by god, none of the religious books were written by god, and none of the religious doctorin were created by god, they are all the writings and creations of MEN, supremely arrogant men how presume that not only there is a god but that they can speak on gods behalf. Then these writings and creations were perverted further for use as methods of control.
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Re: So why do we pray?

mezzanine makes a good point.

Faith can make us lazy.

Instead of refelcting upon what's wrong and maybe trying to do something about it you choose to pray instead. Well you really haven't done anything to address the problem simply left it up the solutions to chance.
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KnowLedge wrote:There loads of smart and religious people here.. I believe in god. But i cant figure out why we pray.

why does god want us to pray? why do we have to spend out time praying to a god when this god is said to be selfless.. Is your god shelfish? did he make a law that "if you pray to me, then i shell give u powers"?




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Re: So why do we pray?

you talk/communicate to get by your day.

you dont need to prey to get by your day, do you? if you do, then god made a very selfish rule..
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Re: So why do we pray?

well of course everyone going to have a different view in this.

i pray. why do i? because i believe there is a god ( heavenly father) that looks upon us everyday. i pray to him for many things,for myself and others.

when i wake up i kneel down to thank thee for looking after myself an my family over the night, that nothing bad happened. an i ask of thee for a good day. plus it depends on the day as well. if i have a exam. i ask of thee to help me remember of the things i have learn t for this exam.
that just a example of something when i wake up.

an when i go to bed. i thank thee for what ever happened to me that day. ( look after family, protection, knowledge, the body that i have, the country i live in) an so much more.

an Juliette first post is right. its so then we can connect to our heavenly father, an talk to him. he wants us to talk to him like a real person, not just a myth.
plus if you ask something from thee, you wont get the answer straight away, the answer could come to the person who prays in many different forms. plus you would need faith of course an believe there is a heavenly father.

so thats what i believe in about prayer as a fello
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plus i respect every ones views in here, an i expect the same.
i rarely visit these debate sections only cause people mock me an so forth through the internet.it just gets annoying. so there ya go. there is my church view. tho other could go in a lot more detail on why in my church.

anyhow. respect all.
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Re: So why do we pray?

KnowLedge wrote:you talk/communicate to get by your day.

you dont need to prey pray to get by your day, do you? if you do, then god made a very selfish rule..



You must have a sad and lonely life. If the only reason you communicate is to get by your day... It must suck.


Communication creates a bond of relationship. You cannot have a relationship without communicating.

Prayer is just a form of communication to God. There are many others. For example; Worship, Praise, Reading his word (i.e The Bible), Meditation on his word.
Just to name a few.

In answer to your statement, "Very Selfish Rule" well, If you think about it, It is selfish of us not to pray; more importantly, how is it a rule? You mentioned earlier he wants us to pray. Thus, you state it isn't a commandment. Therefore, you negate the notion of a rule, which negates the selfishness claim.

Why do we pray? To continue and nurture our relationship with God.

We also pray to let God our needs, even though he already knows them. It A.S.K, Ask, Seek, Knock. Among other things.
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Re: So why do we pray?

God is vain.
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Brdavs wrote:God is vain.

Who are we to know what God is.
No mortal man can understand God. Words cannot define God. Becuase God is God.
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Re: So why do we pray?

Well the part of its being that is observable in our dimensions comes off as a bit vain for his demand of worship.

Its just as valid an observation as the one that he is just, compassionate, loving etc. More substantiated even.
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Re: So why do we pray?

Mister Sandman wrote:
Brdavs wrote:God is vain.

Who are we to know what God is.
No mortal man can understand God. Words cannot define God. Becuase God is God.


Translation; Don't ask questions, you're making God angry. You wouldn't like God when he's angry.
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Re: So why do we pray?

Thriller wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:
Brdavs wrote:God is vain.

Who are we to know what God is.
No mortal man can understand God. Words cannot define God. Becuase God is God.


Translation; Don't ask questions, you're making God angry. You wouldn't like God when he's angry.
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Re: So why do we pray?

Thriller wrote:Translation; Don't ask questions, you're making God angry. You wouldn't like God when he's angry.
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Brdavs wrote:Well the part of its being that is observable in our dimensions comes off as a bit vain for his demand of worship.

Its just as valid an observation as the one that he is just, compassionate, loving etc. More substantiated even.


Wether he is vain or not I do not know.

You say that he demands worship, could you cite a bible reference?


Translation; Don't ask questions, you're making God angry. You wouldn't like God when he's angry.


Infact you should ask more questions, and make less stupid comments.
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