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Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:53 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
KnowLedge wrote:i dont see why its raciest at all.. You call a jewish a jew dont you? So why cant a pakistani be a paki..?
Not raciest.. only raciest if you call an indian, "a paki". because obviously they arent.. and might find it very offensive to be called that.. considering they arent.
again, not slang.

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Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:20 pm
by ƒëmmë ƒatalë
hey Paddy you forgot us Aussies

perhaps in their country the actual word Paki has a completely different meaning..
for example I have an irish friend who's name is Judith, she wont let you call her Judy as she says that's Irish for prostitute ( she is in her 70's so it may have changed over there by now)
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:36 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:hey Paddy you forgot us Aussies

perhaps in their country the actual word Paki has a completely different meaning..
for example I have an irish friend who's name is Judith, she wont let you call her Judy as she says that's Irish for prostitute ( she is in her 70's so it may have changed over there by now)
LMAO... good point, Femme...
I stand corrected... I do use that term often...
and with tenderness...
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Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:21 pm
by Brdavs
Well some nicknames are just percieved and used as derogatory terms for a nation. Yanks, Krauts, Russkies, Frenchies...
Plus with pakis you have the added racial dimensions... it just is, no sense of asking why. Chinaman is technically correct when you refer to a man of chineese origin but it is still a slur.
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:54 am
by Ghoul
Brdavs wrote:Well some nicknames are just percieved and used as derogatory terms for a nation. Yanks, Krauts, Russkies, Frenchies...
Plus with pakis you have the added racial dimensions... it just is, no sense of asking why. Chinaman is technically correct when you refer to a man of chineese origin but it is still a slur.
You can take any name for a group of people as a racial slur. Even within Australia the indigenous people are referred officially to as "Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders" but call a Torres Strait Islander an Aboriginal and they are offended and vice verse. Even within the Aboriginal groups themselves there are a number of names to describe where they came from (locality wise within Australia) and call them the wrong group it is an offence as well.
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:59 am
by Legendary Apophis
Ghoul wrote:Brdavs wrote:Well some nicknames are just percieved and used as derogatory terms for a nation. Yanks, Krauts, Russkies, Frenchies...
Plus with pakis you have the added racial dimensions... it just is, no sense of asking why. Chinaman is technically correct when you refer to a man of chineese origin but it is still a slur.
You can take any name for a group of people as a racial slur. Even within Australia the indigenous people are referred officially to as "Aboriginal and
Torres Strait Islanders" but call a Torres Strait Islander an Aboriginal and they are offended and vice verse. Even within the Aboriginal groups themselves there are a number of names to describe where they came from (locality wise within Australia) and call them the wrong group it is an offence as well.
I wouldn't use such a long name to refer to a group of people anyway..
As for the offense just because it's mistake about different locality...oh my god the silly sensibility!

Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:46 am
by MEZZANINE
Us Welsh are often referred to as Taffs or Taffies, referring to the river Taff and valleys it runs through, I take no offense from this but even if I did, and when it is used in a derogatory way there is no way in hell anyone would be prosecuted for using it as a racial slur.
Whereas calling someone a Paki, even if they are genuinely of Pakistani nationality could and has gotten people prosecuted.
It might seem like double standards when put like that
BUT
Paki has been used as a generalised insult by racists against non-african origin people of darker skin colours for so long that it has now taken on new meaning, and is/has been used far more frequently as a racist slur than it has ever been used as just an abbreviation of nationality.
Language evolves with usage, and the word Paki through negative usage has become a negative word. Therefore it can no longer be used even in a positive or descriptive way for fear of mis-interpretation.
A far more interesting one is the word 'Nigga'. No Pakistani would refer to themselves as a Paki, but African-Americans often seem to call themselves and each other Nigga, yet if a white person says it, it is racist.
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:53 am
by Juliette
I don't know why paki are racist. Maybe they have some bad experiences with other 'groups of people'?
*chuckles*
(is/are, yes, yes.. I know..)
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:37 pm
by Mister Sandman
Pakistanian Or Pakistani
Are the politically correct terms for People who originate from Pakistan.
However I tend to notice that whenever Pakistan is in the news for being bad, the Pakistanis refer to themselves as something else.
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:10 pm
by KnowLedge
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:KnowLedge wrote:i dont see why its raciest at all.. You call a jewish a jew dont you? So why cant a pakistani be a paki..?
Not raciest.. only raciest if you call an indian, "a paki". because obviously they arent.. and might find it very offensive to be called that.. considering they arent.
again, not slang.

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what? do u wanna elaborate on this? you little punk.
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:57 am
by Mister Sandman
It can be use as slang, and it can be an insult.
It is like saying Negro or Black Person instead of 'African American'.
One is more poltically correct than the other.
To elaborate:
Paki is a slang term to describe a Pakistani or one of Pakistani descent - used in an intentionally harmless manner.
**if** it's between non-Pakistanis or Pakistanis themselves?
Although the word can be used with malicious intent.
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:15 am
by Lawless One
ƒemme ƒatale wrote:hey Paddy you forgot us Aussies

perhaps in their country the actual word Paki has a completely different meaning..
for example I have an irish friend who's name is Judith, she wont let you call her Judy as she says that's Irish for prostitute ( she is in her 70's so it may have changed over there by now)
no i didnt i just didnt want to make your head bigger

you get enough attention as it is

MEZZANINE wrote:Us Welsh are often referred to as Taffs or Taffies, referring to the river Taff and valleys it runs through, I take no offense from this but even if I did, and when it is used in a derogatory way there is no way in hell anyone would be prosecuted for using it as a racial slur.
was there not another word to put welsh people down
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:35 am
by ~Thamuz~
lawless one wrote:ƒemme ƒatale wrote:hey Paddy you forgot us Aussies

perhaps in their country the actual word Paki has a completely different meaning..
for example I have an irish friend who's name is Judith, she wont let you call her Judy as she says that's Irish for prostitute ( she is in her 70's so it may have changed over there by now)
no i didnt i just didnt want to make your head bigger

you get enough attention as it is

MEZZANINE wrote:Us Welsh are often referred to as Taffs or Taffies, referring to the river Taff and valleys it runs through, I take no offense from this but even if I did, and when it is used in a derogatory way there is no way in hell anyone would be prosecuted for using it as a racial slur.
was there not another word to put welsh people down

Something to do with sheep me thinks. lol
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:47 am
by Lawless One
lol like the curragh in ireland we used to call them sheep sha**ers

not anymore tho thats an old saying
Re: why is paki racist??
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:02 am
by MEZZANINE
~Thamuz~ wrote:lawless one wrote:ƒemme ƒatale wrote:hey Paddy you forgot us Aussies

perhaps in their country the actual word Paki has a completely different meaning..
for example I have an irish friend who's name is Judith, she wont let you call her Judy as she says that's Irish for prostitute ( she is in her 70's so it may have changed over there by now)
no i didnt i just didnt want to make your head bigger

you get enough attention as it is

MEZZANINE wrote:Us Welsh are often referred to as Taffs or Taffies, referring to the river Taff and valleys it runs through, I take no offense from this but even if I did, and when it is used in a derogatory way there is no way in hell anyone would be prosecuted for using it as a racial slur.
was there not another word to put welsh people down

Something to do with sheep me thinks. lol
Dont tell me that woolie goodness dont do it for you too
Yeah I have heard than term, but only from the English when we beat them at Rugby
