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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:20 pm
by Sturmwehr
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:farming only gets you so far.
Then why is players in the top 100 still do it?
I agree that, sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and go after someone your size, but farming exists in this game because it's allowed to. And, since that naquadah isn't being used, it doesn't make sense to just let it go to waste.
Even to the top players, 50 mil is still 50 mil. Farm 10 or so and you got an extra 500,000,000. Far from pocket change.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:25 pm
by [SGC_ReplicĂ…tors]
yes players in the top farm but they also just dont farm they trade and do other things 2
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:53 pm
by Fig Jam
in the show, asgard are the strongest race in the solar system, they have great defence, but generaly dont like attacking ppl,
this game is based upon the show, so asgard have strong defence, thats how it works.
ppl with high attack make more, ppl with high def keep more, ppl with high covert can know out both high attack and def.
if ya wanna attack ppl more, become a tauri and get ova it
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:52 pm
by Psi Kiya Trist
fig_jam wrote:in the show, asgard are the strongest race in the solar system, they have great defence, but generaly dont like attacking ppl,
this game is based upon the show, so asgard have strong defence, thats how it works.
ppl with high attack make more, ppl with high def keep more, ppl with high covert can know out both high attack and def.
if ya wanna attack ppl more, become a tauri and get ova it
i'd like to point to this post as a perfect example of someone who has no idea what they're talking about.
firstly. the replicators were the most advanced race in stargate short of the ancients.
secondly. even TAU'RI will give up the urge to attack. trust me. i've seen it happen.
thirdly. this game isn't ENTIRELY based around the show. we have alot of leaway.
~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:22 am
by Spoon
Something does need to be done about this, defences are getting out of hand really, as i have a defence of over 6bill, and that only gets me ranked 140, for my strike i have 3bill which puts me at rank 65 as no-one bothers with strike anymore. One posible way round it could be to set it so that for every 500mill defence you buy the price goes up or any weapons youu buy from that then on would be a bit less effective ie, you need 3k weapons to get to 500mill defence, to get to 1billion defence you would require 7k weapons all together, and keep increasing it. That would keep defences lower than strikes, or at least more costly, add in the removal of all the inactive players so as to get rid of farms it would mean that unless you are willing to attack properly you would have to rely on your income, this has the drawback though that it would make those big players with millions of miners untouchable.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:22 am
by Mango
0 Att, High Defence is the best way to play the game it seems.
I just had a look through the ranks >5000 and did some spying and found quite a few Asgard with 0 defence and over 8 billion defence. I found a 32 billion, a 24 billion a couple of 10-15 bill.
How many people have that sort of attack to hurt these players?
It really is getting out of hand.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:35 am
by Dark Phoenix
Mango wrote:0 Att, High Defence is the best way to play the game it seems.
I just had a look through the ranks >5000 and did some spying and found quite a few Asgard with 0 defence and over 8 billion defence. I found a 32 billion, a 24 billion a couple of 10-15 bill.
How many people have that sort of attack to hurt these players?
It really is getting out of hand.
erm i think you mean 0 attack? just a helpful hint, lol. and i agree, espetially with these mofo ships. i am a tauri and i think attacks arn't worth it! i hit a gua'uld half my rank, got 50mil, lost about 53 mil in sheilds and weps on my m/s. then i had to pay about another 17mil to replace troops and repair weps. 500,000,000 is good money....... but it takes farming or trading to get. when i ascend, im going the as'gaurd equivelent

and may i ask what that is aswell?
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:27 am
by SGC_Sam Fisher
You have to be Asgard to became a Ancient.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:40 am
by Spoon
SGC_Sam Fisher wrote:You have to be Asgard to became a Ancient.
No you dont, its one of the changes, you can change ascended being race as well, im sure there is a topic about it somewhere. Though it doesnt matter as all ascended shells are the same apart from in name.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:58 pm
by Dark Phoenix
Spoon the Prophet wrote:SGC_Sam Fisher wrote:You have to be Asgard to became a Ancient.
No you dont, its one of the changes, you can change ascended being race as well, im sure there is a topic about it somewhere. Though it doesnt matter as all ascended shells are the same apart from in name.
really? kool! that'll help!
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:54 pm
by [SGC_ReplicĂ…tors]
so what would actually encourage attacking?
reduced reapir bill?
reduced combat losses?
"slighty" adjust defence?
a combintaion of all of them?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:05 pm
by Dark Phoenix
SGC_Replicators wrote:so what would actually encourage attacking?
reduced reapir bill?
reduced combat losses?
"slighty" adjust defence?
a combintaion of all of them?
change all the reduced's to massivly reduce and change the slightly to massivly decreased and ill agree with havin them all

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:26 am
by pianomutt20000
I agree with increasing the strike. You shouldn't make def more powerful as you go, because it's already too late for that. We would never approach the top 50 if that happened. But, make the cost of weapons go down, FAR down for Tauri. (to make them more viable). Adjusting the turns would be nice also. Also, an attack option that breaks a harder def, but takes less naq. Then there's the repair costs. That are out of hand. I'm sorry, if i attack someone with no def(3 damage) I should never have to pay 21mil in damages. Heck, if i shoot someone with my M-16, and they don't shoot back, all i have to do is clean the damn thing. Not pay 21mil sigh. (which happens on a random basis).
Bill
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:30 am
by Dark Phoenix
yep i agree. if they have nooooo def, they shouldnt even get the 3, and in no way are our weps damaged...... so why in the heck do we have to pay for repairs?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:50 am
by Spoon
pianomutt20000 wrote:But, make the cost of weapons go down, FAR down for Tauri. (to make them more viable).
Erm, defence is the tauris weak point, lowering the cost of defence for them would unbalance the game slightly this isnt meant to be a tauri complaining thread. If you want cheap defence play asgard, your defence weps cost the same as replicators or goauld, you just get less bang for your buck as you choose to play as the attacking race.