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Crixus wrote:

KnowLedge wrote:I personally think ur paying wayyy too much.

Firstly, its a gaming computer... so you dont really need sound card unless you have plans to hook it up to a home theater system or something.....
Also, Ive had bad experience with nvidia, (driver problems, blue screens on their card, eventual death of card in 3 years)

now, here is my comp I build in the winter break, it cost me $600 Canadian $

4 gigs ram
1 tb WD HDD
MSI MOBO (with HDMI slot)
AMD quadcore 2.9 ghz
wireless adaptar card
and a $100 case from coolmax which came with a psu.

granted this comp cant play any current games on excellent graphics.. but when I add a $200 video card, Itl be just as well as yours..

I built this comp to connect it up to my LCD tv, mainly for entertainment.. SO when I decide to play games, Ill buy a video card..

I recommend buying a wireless pci card, simply so you can move the comp around your house and dont have to worry about getting the ethernet cable.

Other then that it looks fine.. but really $1600 Euro, you should jsut aim for a inter i7

Uhm. No.

Why settle for the cheap components and substandard system... Indeed, it IS a gaming PC, and you want to squeeze every bit of performance out of it...

You WANT to run ANY game at full effects and still get max FPS...

And you want to do it at LEAST for the next year, which this machine can acheive...

As for the sound card, Im STILL using my Creative Audigy 2... Simply Awesome 5.1 sound, especially great for games like BFBC2 or even StarCraftII Having decent sound really increases the games in a big way, make sure you have proper speakers/headset for it though, Seinheisser have some awesome wireless headphones

Overall, as mentioned about the other primary drive, it seems like a decent pc allround.

But, why not go I7? Think about that

Dmonix wrote:About the graphics cards, having just come out of a university challenge course in GPU programming I can say that 1280 is below entry level now a days, we were using ATI cards with 2GB DDR5 memory, as far as I know a crazy card you can get is this one

VeNoM56k wrote:sorry for bothering all of you. lol. and i appreciate all the help. so i redid the build based on what most of you said, taking some things more into account than others and came with this.

Case
COOLERMASTER HAF 922 MID TOWER GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)
AMD PHENOM II X4 955 (3.20GHz/8MB CACHE/AM3) - BLACK EDITION

Motherboard
ASUS® M4N98TD EVO: DDR3, 2-Way SLI, SATA 3.0GB/s

Memory (RAM)
8GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)

Graphics Card
1280MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX470 - 2 DVI,mHDMI - DX® 11, 3D (Special Offer!)

2nd Graphics Card
1280MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX470 - 2 DVI,mHDMI - DX® 11, 3D (Special Offer!)

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
80GB Intel® X25-M 2.5" SSD (34nm / upto 250MB/sR | 70MB/sW)***SPECIAL***

2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W TX SERIES (TX850) 80+ ULTRA QUIET PSU (£99)

Processor Cooling
COOLIT ECO A.L.C (ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER) (£59)

Sound Card
Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ Xtreme Gamer (£59)

so, first off is that power supply efficient for the gfx cards and one more question.

would it be better to get one 1536MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX580 or two 1280MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX470, i know it would be cheaper for the gtx580(with lowering the PSU etc), but i dont mind dishing out the extra money once its not a waste.

I am looking to play new games on high if not max settings, can this rig do it??

again i appreciate all the help you have given me already, im a whiz "on" the computer but when it comes to the hardware im not the best.

VeNoM56k wrote:ok then. ok the website im buying from the next one up is a

CORSAIR 1000W PRO SERIES (HX1000) 80+ MODULAR PSU

i dont mind paying the extra plus it will give me room to upgrade if i need to. so with the power supply above and the rest, is it sufficient to play the new games on top settings, will everything be ok, and is it worth the money? in your opinion

Kit-Fox wrote:I tried to resist but just oculdnt, heres some general advice;

Case - get the biggest you can possibly afford, you'll want the space for airflow and any potential upgrades. Personally I would look at LianLi cases if you have the cash, they are very well made and usually have so much space inside them you wont know what to do with it all.

Vid Cards - You really dont need SLI or Crossfire unless you are planning on running a multiple monitor setup & by that I dont mean dual monitors, I mean 3 or more and plan to split your games onto all the monitors. Then you'll need the extra processing & memory. Otherwise your probably better off sticking to the most expensive singular card you can afford.

HDD - For your primary if you can try to get an SSD either a PCIE one or a sata, it will help. Secondary storage drives etc are fine as good old fashioned cheap mechanical drives.

System Memory - Dont settle for anything under 6Gb if you can avoid it, you'll need it You also want to get the fastest speed mem your motherboard will support if your trying to make it last. Dont forget to get cooling for your memory as well, these days mem boards can run pretty hot.

Soundcard - I would always get a real soundcard, even if your not using a home cinema system, as they can offer you potentially much more than the onboard solutions in terms of capability & connections, such as the Creative series with their live drives etc.

Optical - Dont bother with a blu-ray burner, discs are still stupidly too expensive and by teh time they become affordable we'll all have moved onto the next big format, just get a reader

PSU - Here is where most people fall down on their understanding, the PSU is the heart of your system, without it your screwed. With that in mind you should always over spec, you dont have to go modular unless you want to but it can be helpful with cable management. You should aim on a modern pc, especially if your gonna be running dual vid cards to be looking at, at least 850W PSUs with good 12V & 5V rails. The risk is that you'll just think about the wattage outupt, but you should consider how stable the rails are, there is no point getting a 1KW PSU whose 12V rail will only output at best under a full load 11.2V. As if thats the case when the PSU ages that figure will drop even further.

Best thing to do is to do your research very well, ask around read tech sites for reviews and stuff. For myself I use a LianLi 750W one & its served my system very well (q6600, ATI5830) it hasnt suffered any problems yet with the rails still outputting the same voltage as when it was new.

Oh & if your case supports it mounting the PSU at the bottom of the case can be great for cable management