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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:33 pm
by pianomutt20000
I disagree with the mothership crew idea. I'm in the military, and the size of crews has continued to drop over the last few hundred years. On many of these ships, alot involves pushing buttons. On highly advanced motherships, one would gather there would be auto repair systems. Thus the need of a large crew isn't an issue. UNLESS you have a crew of ground troops on it. Ground troops, cannot harm a mothership....But a mothership should be able to kick the heck out of ground troops. Heck, an F-18 fighter can take out a squad of troups easy.. So can a UAV, but unless you buy anti-air weapons(a thought), you haven't a hope in heck. The size of standing armys has also dropped since the introduction of the airplane.(China and North Korea being exceptions).

Just a thought

Bill

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:24 am
by daivahataka
How about make it such that the ground troops with seventh level weapons (i.e. the best, put some restrictions upon it!) can counter attack against the MS if their strength relative to the opposition's is above a certain threshold, sort of like how the anti-covert troops update works?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:21 am
by Wolf359
pianomutt20000 wrote:I disagree with the mothership crew idea. I'm in the military, and the size of crews has continued to drop over the last few hundred years. On many of these ships, alot involves pushing buttons. On highly advanced motherships, one would gather there would be auto repair systems. Thus the need of a large crew isn't an issue. UNLESS you have a crew of ground troops on it. Ground troops, cannot harm a mothership....But a mothership should be able to kick the heck out of ground troops. Heck, an F-18 fighter can take out a squad of troups easy.. So can a UAV, but unless you buy anti-air weapons(a thought), you haven't a hope in heck. The size of standing armys has also dropped since the introduction of the airplane.(China and North Korea being exceptions).

Just a thought

Bill


I see what you are saying - but it is not necessarilly true - I am in the military too - and current involved in the development of a future naval vessel. When the project started, it was estimated that we could cut the average crew numbers by half - but as time and technology have progressed, the numbers have steadily increased until we are almost back at the level of the previous class.

Re: Peace be with you

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:17 pm
by Grand Admiral Martin
Pakarinen wrote:ancient satelite weapon should destroy every mother ship automaticly if it gets off the first shot... that would roxors amusingly... and people would leave ancients alone if they hava mothership... meaning asgard ascend to the ultimate defense... :P


wrong! in atlantis we can clearly see that ancient technology is outdated. cant remember episode but there was a massive debris field , a destroyed wraith fleet by the super charged ancient gun, when trying to escape from it the puddle jumper with mckay and sheppard is shielded by the daedalus which gets into the line fo fire, therefore tauri motherships can now withstand ancient weapons(as can asgard)

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:58 pm
by pianomutt20000
I understand what you are saying about the new naval ships. But don't new ships always start out that way, and then reduce numbers later? Also, you have to look at not a hundred years development of tech, but thousands of years. I still think the crew idea isn't a good idea. Bombers of old required a crew of 6-8. The B2 bomber requires 2.

Bill

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:45 am
by chippy1199
well i agree with flavar. because its stupid that someone ranked 12,000 can build up a semi decent mothership that has about 600mil attack and 600mil defence, and then mass u with it destroying a whole heap of shields and weapons each attack. now i mean war is war, but when the sole purpose of someone doing it day in day out is silly. and also someone ranked 12,000 cant afford to rebuild a MS like that daily. just a thought.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:59 am
by pianomutt20000
True, but it is a good way to get people off your back, that are farming you. If you are ranked 3500, and you're mothership is ranked in the top 50's, perhaps a mothership mass might keep the wolves at bay while you build your other stats. Me, i've never relied on my mothership, but I wouldn't take that from someone else.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:14 am
by Wolf359
pianomutt20000 wrote:I understand what you are saying about the new naval ships. But don't new ships always start out that way, and then reduce numbers later? Also, you have to look at not a hundred years development of tech, but thousands of years. I still think the crew idea isn't a good idea. Bombers of old required a crew of 6-8. The B2 bomber requires 2.

Bill


No - it tend to be steady - the number of crew are determined by the operational and maintenance requirements.

With increased technology - sure, the number of operators decreases, but conversely the number of maintainers increases - more complicated technology means more maintainers.

Besides - don't the motherships in Stargate have crews anyway??

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:44 am
by pianomutt20000
True, you have a very valid point. But perhaps then, they should make it maintence and not crew. Also, yes alot of motherships had crews in stargate. true. But they don't HAVE to. There are instances of 1 or more people flying the ships without a crew. Though, a regular maintence fee taken out of your income might make things interesting....

Bill

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:33 pm
by urogard
i'm sorry for saying this:
Flavar could you please learn how to write in english correctly. I'm not dissing you. It's just that i had to read your first post twice in order to get it. And it hurt my eyes seeying such misspellings. (and no, I am NOT a mother tongue english speaker)

Mod Edit by Wolf359: Whether English is your first language or not - it is not a valid reason for this sort of post - criticising people because of their command of the English language on the forum is unacceptable - any such posts in the future will not be tolerated. You have ben warned.

2nd Edit: Having just re-read Flavar's post I have to say that you have been overly critical towards him - the post is easy to read, with minor mistakes.

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:21 am
by pianomutt20000
I agree, I speak 3 languages...English, Morse Code(yes, the military again.) and bullsh##. I am fluent in the first and the last, and pretty good with the second. I give congrats to anyone who can speak more then 1 language. So, I think you are doing fine Flavor, period. In fact, I will pull out number two to say goodbye...

-.-. -.-- .- (cya)

Bill

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:05 pm
by rille
You must have the same strike action / deffens action to take the same damges

Like this you have 500 mil in striek action and the mother ship have 1000mmil it will only take like 490mil or 500 mil but if you have 1000mil in strike action that ship will take 1000mil damges and the same on the deffens