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Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:55 am
by GOLDEN WING
renegadze wrote:hmm this is interesting.....wonder if LoD will come mass me
btw I sell turns for 1.5tril/k and have no problem shifting them!
1-1.1tril is actually massively undervalued.
Due to the shortage of turns in the game it really requires $$ spenders to add a stimulous to the market. Now if someone buys turns for $$ and only wishes to trade them (rather then use any themselves) this would mean they get 12k turns for $10.
Selling 12k turns @ 1 tril = 12tril naq - ergo $10 for 12tril naq
At best prices for naq on the market you can get about double that naq for $10
making the relative AT price 2tril/k
If you look hard enough and put some effort you can easily find 25-30bil hits Average making you 2.5T-3T per k with nothing but 1 weapon trained.
i Agree with this Market Price for AT should be MUCH MUCH higher than 1.1T per k when the buyer is actually making His money back + 1T-2T profit.
it shouldn't be that way this means people are growing to quickly and buying more turns i believe if
prices Increase there will be allot more turns available as people won't be able to afford to spend 10T on 10k turns then farm then 2 hours later buy another 10k and have the profit left over for another 10k on top of that .
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:14 am
by Bullseye
Yeap have agree 1.1t is a bargain price. Like Golden said you can easily get 2-3t from 1k ats. So LoD is very naughty. lol
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:52 am
by Nikola Tesla
what right or wrong people? this is game, if he's having fun this way, I say good job to him.
people have been massed in this game for much less of a reason, get over it, he found reason he likes, if you don't like that reason, your problem.
and if you believe At's are way to cheap I'll sell them to you for 5T per K.
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Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:59 am
by Juliette
What does it matter.. you can mass anyone you want for any reason you want. Even such silly reasons as 'your asking price is too high'.

Right or wrong doesn't factor into it; no one can force you to sell at any rate, anyone can mass you, and the risk of getting massed is always there.

Regardless, good thread. I like the way it creates a reason for random people to mass other random people. Speaking of which, anything happen to LoD yet?

Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:02 am
by harchester
Go LoD
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Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:43 am
by Iƒrit
right and wrong are a matter of perspective.
what is moral for you may not be for someone else.
Why oppress the minority for doing something they believe is the right thing to do?
How about you look at your own faults and stop judging others for what
you deem is "wrong".
Personally its not really random massing, as the target is not truly being selected out of randomness, their is a reason.....
Its a war game, their are many reasons one can come up with to mass another, how about we criticize every excuse people use to mass
Now that I am done playing advocate,
I personally don't think its a worthy reason to mass people, but to eaches own.
I personally think ATs are slightly undervalued, but still roughly where they should be.
Regards,
Crying NOOOOO
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:52 am
by Iƒrit
SuperSaiyan wrote:you don't see me beating the **Filtered** out of people because gas prices go up do you?

ROFL, you should

Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:52 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
LoD? Doesn't suprise me tbh..to see what I mean, just do a bit of research.
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:35 pm
by Avitir
Interesting looking at players on here and the alliances they belong to making judgements here- especially seeing as reasons such as:
"The clock is ticking"
"You (or your alliance) is on page 1"
"I'm not giving a reason"
etc etc
All seem to fly with some of your alliances or your close allies.
Be careful about throwing stones in glasshouses.
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:47 pm
by Jixxi
Avitir wrote:Interesting looking at players on here and the alliances they belong to making judgements here- especially seeing as reasons such as:
"The clock is ticking"
"You (or your alliance) is on page 1"
"I'm not giving a reason"
etc etc
All seem to fly with some of your alliances or your close allies.
Be careful about throwing stones in glasshouses.
what are you on about?
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:53 pm
by Avitir
Jixxi wrote:Avitir wrote:Interesting looking at players on here and the alliances they belong to making judgements here- especially seeing as reasons such as:
"The clock is ticking"
"You (or your alliance) is on page 1"
"I'm not giving a reason"
etc etc
All seem to fly with some of your alliances or your close allies.
Be careful about throwing stones in glasshouses.
what are you on about?
How is "I'm going to mass you for selling too high" any different from what a lot of alliances do/have done in the past with reasons that could be construed as just as weak and pathetic as the one you originally posted?
I then stated that there are some here who are or were in such alliances who were doing massings for such baseless reasons and are now making such judgements.
Most players have massed people for reasons as above or worse- often it is just a convenient excuse to get at someone.
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:03 pm
by Jixxi
Avitir wrote:Jixxi wrote:Avitir wrote:Interesting looking at players on here and the alliances they belong to making judgements here- especially seeing as reasons such as:
"The clock is ticking"
"You (or your alliance) is on page 1"
"I'm not giving a reason"
etc etc
All seem to fly with some of your alliances or your close allies.
Be careful about throwing stones in glasshouses.
what are you on about?
How is "I'm going to mass you for selling too high" any different from what a lot of alliances do/have done in the past with reasons that could be construed as just as weak and pathetic as the one you originally posted?
I then stated that there are some here who are or were in such alliances who were doing massings for such baseless reasons and are now making such judgements.
Most players have massed people for reasons as above or worse- often it is just a convenient excuse to get at someone.
what alliances have done it in the past?
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:08 pm
by Mathlord
Actually people have massed people over market prices for years. It's unfortunate and not something I support, but it is part of the game.
If people couldn't afford turns, people wouldn't buy turns. It still makes it tougher for people just starting out to catch up as they aren't the ones who could afford the bigger prices, but that's to be expected at this stage in such an old game. Still, more turns on the market would be appreciated for all of us in wars atm

Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:22 pm
by dazman
Putting more turns on the market will help for a little bit. But the more turns available to lower the naq steals will get and the more turns people with go through hence prices moving up again.
can't stop supply and demand, the admin can control it. And if you had some big big market players you could control it to.
But the sellers set the prices.
Re: right or wrong?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:00 pm
by Couzens
prices will go up, people will want to buy ats and will get frustrated at the fact they aint buying them as quickly as they want and will offer a price higher than others are offering to get ats faster, one of the main supplies of ats atm is probably people ascending, as more and more people finish ascending the less turns that are available to buy, soon i fear activity wont be able to keep up with $$,
to keep on topic not smth i would do, but when farming you want to make as much profit as you can for the time you spent farming, so keeping the ats prices down = more profit although then massing people will lower your profit even more as you need to replace uu and ats.