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Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:48 am
by [SlayerS_fith]
lol'z

why on vac bro?

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:24 am
by Sir Phoenix Knight
Ryuujin Jakka wrote:Just for faded empire to be certified
NO I DID NOT BREAK A CEASEFIRE
YES THIS WAS PERSONAL!
I TOLD THIS GUY HE WAS BEING MASSED AS SOON AS I HAD TIME TO WASTE ON HIM.

Ok if you did not break ceasefire with the rest of Faded Empire...why is this in todays logs...
00:44 Ryuujin Jakka [ Ascd. Generations - CHIEF] Limonko [ TC~Faded Empire ] attack 15 Win
00:43 Ryuujin Jakka [ Ascd. Generations - CHIEF] Comulous [ TC~Faded Empire - WarChief] ConquerPlanet 15 Win
May 29, 11:14 Ryuujin Jakka [ Ascd. Generations - CHIEF] reaper1 [ TC~Faded Empire ] attack 15 Win

Not that it matters much since the rest of your alliance cant abide by the cease fire either
07:39 Field Marshal [ Ascd. Generations - Boss] Sorath56k [ TC~Faded Empire - Recruter] attack 15 Win
03:16 Field Marshal [ Ascd. Generations - Boss] Sorath56k [ TC~Faded Empire - Recruter] attack 15 Win
May 29, 11:47 ~Belsamber~ [ Ascd. Generations - Berserker] reaper1 [ TC~Faded Empire ] attack 3 Win
May 29, 11:15 Field Marshal [ Ascd. Generations - Boss] Liquidforce [ TC~Faded Empire ] attack 15 Win
May 29, 11:11 Field Marshal [ Ascd. Generations - Boss] Kuolaavahuorakoira [ TC~Faded Empire ] attack 15 Win

Now if this was a 1 v 1 then why haven't you kept it as such...

and not only that if ya look at your msg'es btw you and vedil you are the one that uses abusive language first as well...

and also not only that we were told that our training alliances would stay out of this fight all together another one of your alliance promises not kept...
since a few in our training alliance were massed by your alliance and have had planets stolen and told if they think about even taking them back
they will be massed and striped... so now you are threating younger players... which makes you look like even bigger ass hats...

So i suggest you keep this as a 1 v 1 as you have stated here and be the honorable player you are claiming to be...

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:55 am
by Rabbid Thom
looks like they were farmed not massed

i think there been mass confusion going between AG and The Confed.

but if you look in your outgoing logs im sure you'll find:
May 29, 21:04 Comulous [ TC~Faded Empire - WarChief] Ryuujin Jakka [ Ascd. Generations - CHIEF] ConquerPlanet 15 Win

also slating some-one by calling them an ass won't go far, all it'll lead to is more massings

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:58 am
by Sir Phoenix Knight
that was her planet and that she toke back...

not only that she has had 3 planets taken from her in the past 4 days..

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:59 am
by Rabbid Thom
even so but you accuse AG of breaking the cease fire even though your side is aswell

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:03 am
by vedil
I wanted to come on and personally respond to this. I have been in this game for a long time and anyone who knows me knows that I'm not easily or quickly prone to harsh words or reacting badly to people and I'm about the friendliest person in the game. That being said Ryuujin you did leave out a couple of messages and edited them out to make you look a lot better in this. That's fine no big deal. Lets see there was the part when I was trying to talk about the planet with you and instead of being civilized you continued to threaten me and made a comment to the effect that I didnt have any balls to fight you. Lets see there was the "You took my planet so your account is going to be wiped out of the game your defense and all of your planets will be removed." Ok fine this would have been an acceptable reaction had I made the comments you made reference to first but such was not the case. You sent this message after I asked why you had to be like that. And lets give the proper frame of reference to that message. So you had just massed my planet down and I recovered it I said "That cost me 22 trillion..." Your response was "It will cost you a hell of a lot more soon" Not it might but flat out it will. So all the he said this and he said that aside I think we are both at fault here. Yes I could have reacted better and since you caught me at 2 am with it perhaps that clouded my judgement on speaking. I think you could have been more reasonable and less unpleasant about it as well. I'm sorry for what I said but I'm not sorry for taking back my planet.

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:03 am
by Juliette
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:Ok if you did not break ceasefire with the rest of Faded Empire...why is this in todays logs...
The ceasefire did not stipulate a complete cessation of 'firing'. Regular hits which you, like any other alliance, will take, were never forbidden.
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:Not that it matters much since the rest of your alliance cant abide by the cease fire either
So you are the victim? Perhaps. But you are the victim of your own big mouthed member.
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:Now if this was a 1 v 1 then why haven't you kept it as such...
Tssk, tssk. Read again, you are not the victim. You are the instigator. You and your alliance.
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:and not only that if ya look at your msg'es btw you and vedil you are the one that uses abusive language first as well...
If you go by the first swear word, yes. If you go by the first personal insult, which we've done since this came up, Vedil committed the offence. Had he just yelled and sworn at Ryu, I am quite sure he would have laughed it off. Talking about how Ryu was supposedly abused is personal, insane, and deserving of an long lasting blacklisting. 8)
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:and also not only that we were told that our training alliances would stay out of this fight all together another one of your alliance promises not kept...
since a few in our training alliance were massed by your alliance and have had planets stolen and told if they think about even taking them back
Taking things back? Um. Stealing planets from us. Planets we stole from you, perhaps, but our planets nonetheless. From where I am standing, you just said your people attack our people. Which is funny. Ha. Ha.
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:they will be massed and striped... so now you are threating younger players... which makes you look like even bigger ass hats...
Why would anyone wear a hat on their ass. Silly Phoenix Knight. We are threatening no one. Just stating our intent. If you feel threatened by that, tough luck.
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:So i suggest you keep this as a 1 v 1 as you have stated here and be the honorable player you are claiming to be...
Like your people, who insult us? And then have the audacity to attack us, as well? =D>


You are not the victim, Sir Phoenix Knight. You are spinning the story to make it appear as though you are, but we can all see what you are trying to do. You have been foiled.
:smt025

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:12 am
by Rabbid Thom
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote: 07:39 Field Marshal [ Ascd. Generations - Boss] Sorath56k [ TC~Faded Empire - Recruter] attack 15 Win
03:16 Field Marshal [ Ascd. Generations - Boss] Sorath56k [ TC~Faded Empire - Recruter] attack 15 Win
May 29, 11:47 ~Belsamber~ [ Ascd. Generations - Berserker] reaper1 [ TC~Faded Empire ] attack 3 Win
May 29, 11:15 Field Marshal [ Ascd. Generations - Boss] Liquidforce [ TC~Faded Empire ] attack 15 Win
May 29, 11:11 Field Marshal [ Ascd. Generations - Boss] Kuolaavahuorakoira [ TC~Faded Empire ] attack 15 Win


i just would like to point out Liquid force and Sorath56k are inactive they both have 0 defs both with at least 1.1 mil to almost 1.3 uu out i think it's safe to say they are on farm lists

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:14 am
by Sir Phoenix Knight
Really we are not the victums....

let see how this started before Vedil was ever touched once...

Oly leader of Faded Empire having 2 planets stolen by AG then massed by those same 2 ppl when he toke back 1 of his planets...

and dont try and claim that once there taken they are yours sorry but there not...
that would be like me walking up to you in the street and snatching your car keys out of your hands and saying well ya car is mine now...

and as for the ass hate remake its not polite to swear on a public forum so keep your remarks to yourself...

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:33 am
by Juliette
Really?
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:Really we are not the victums....
Oh well, if you say so. *sadface*
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:let see how this started before Vedil was ever touched once...
Let us go back to April 2006, and see what happened then. OMG. Yes, yes. You are right! :shock:
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:Oly leader of Faded Empire having 2 planets stolen by AG then massed by those same 2 ppl when he toke back 1 of his planets...
Of course. He hit Ascended Generations. An ill-thought out move.
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:and dont try and claim that once there taken they are yours sorry but there not...
that would be like me walking up to you in the street and snatching your car keys out of your hands and saying well ya car is mine now...
Oh, Sir Phoenix Knight! Now you've done it. You do remember this is a game, right? I mean, cars? Really?
Sir Phoenix Knight wrote: and as for the ass hate remake its not polite to swear on a public forum so keep your remarks to yourself...
:lol: I would not dream of swearing in an official memo. I just used your own words, assuming that is the language you understand. Here, let me link you to this -really, this, "Ryu vs Vedil" - thread:
viewtopic.php?p=2305035#p2305035


So yeah. You are the victims. I am quite sure after that marvellous display of eloquence and analytical insight, we are all agreed. *cough*
Oh.. we are not. Oh well, guess we continue as we were.

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:49 am
by Comulous
The cease fire was never broken by our side. Your alliance was informed that i would take my planet back when i could. And everyone was happy with this as we ended on a friendly note. The only reason in the delay was getting my other stolen planet back first, then turning around to find my planet merlined, so had to wait.

And no story has been spun, only thing I am reading from our side is the cold hard facts. Sorry if they are too much to handle.

And as for taking planets off people then saying that they are now yours and you'll mass if taken back. I have never come across such arrogant players as this while in FE. I am sure that everyone on here would take their own planet back if stolen, including yourselves. That's just ridiculous, even other very aggressive alliances don't do that.

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:00 pm
by Kjarkur
If cease fire is agreed upon it will certainly not allow one side to take back what had been stolen from them before the cease fire was made.
To be honest I never thought you actually would, I know you mentioned it in one of the PM's but I ignored it and my alliance mates acted upon it when you did it.

And comparing a game to real life is pathetic, at best.

To that end I wish you all the best guys. But you can not make a cease fire and them demand old planets back. I'd like to see an example of that ever happening in SGW.

Remember to keep it respectful and try to have fun.

-KJ

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:27 pm
by Mesocricetus
Alright, I don't know the exact details between AG and FE, so I will not delve in that discussion.

On the fact of AG involving The Confederacy's training alliance EE, however... After this supposed ceasefire started, AG members continued picking out EE members and nullifying them. For example, I got sabotaged 17 times and then attacked, by someone of AG who could've easily just attacked and take the 47 billion naquadah I had on me. Sure, the sabotaging doesn't show in the logs, but the aggression from AG towards EE goes much further than farming. Instead of taking 47 billion naquadah, Field Marshal flattened my defensive action first through sabotage, bringing my costs to about a trillion and most likely bringing his own costs higher than the naquadah he took from me. No simple farming going on there, and I'm just one of several examples of AG's aggression towards EE.

Now being a big, mean and aggressive alliance is fine of course. It wouldn't be my personal way to play this game, but to each their own. I respect that decision. However, trashing training alliance members of EE, simply for having a dispute with FE? Surely AG is above these petty stabs at new players who are focusing on ascending?

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:31 pm
by Ryuujin Jakka
Vedil this has nothing to do with the planet it has to do with *PERSONALLY INSULTING ME AND MY FAMILY* as u pmed me I will be on msn i'n an hour or so , we can talk then . I'm on iPhone ATM , see you soon:

Re: Ryuujin - Jakka VS Vedil *Personal*

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:33 pm
by vedil
Fair enough. Look forward to talking with you.