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DeathIncarnator wrote:My thoughts :-

If it aint broke don`t fix it!

And as its not broken I ask myself why anyone would want to change it?

I presume this is a DDE ploy to get an edge or to gain an advantage somehow.

Not that thats ever been done before........

It may not be broken mate but in times of war it would be a fairer update to have. In regards to the account vac senario: if you make the choice to not fight on both fronts then you have to balance the advantage it gives to person A against the disadvantage it gives to the attacker/defender person B. Maybe autovac the other account or lessen the bonus of the only active account? Or something else?

i think this could be advantagious for anyone who is warring not to mind DDE, OE, TA or TL or any warring power for that matter. I think it needs to be discussed a fair bit more though to ensure a true reflection of the player membership is reflected and a final resolution becomes apparent.

DeathIncarnator wrote:My thoughts :- Leave all as is

If it aint broke don`t fix it!

And as its not broken I ask myself why anyone would want to change it?

I presume this is a DDE ploy to get an edge or to gain an advantage somehow.

Not that thats ever been done before........

Please don`t veil attempts to undermine and destroy established ascended accounts. Some people have put it so much time and effort to build good accounts. I`m sick and tired of using these forums to try and **Filtered** others ascended accounts. If you want a better ascended account just log in and do some work every day......simples.

DDE ploy ??? Well perhaps, maybe they dont think they will need alliance functions when they start building unmassable 200+ trill defs, maybe they want to war another alliance/empire who also able to cover alliance functions 24/7. But what do the intentions/plots/rumors of one group matter when the update suggested is for the betterment of the game.

What have alliance repair/PPT achieved ?

Massing practically killed off by a single player clicking a one button at minimal cost

The rise of the Covert/AC levels as the new superweapon, but only for those who can afford them

The ability to run & hide several times a week

Nothing good IMO, it was a bad update that has needed removing since it's inception. If you want to prevent a massing, dont just click alliance ppt/repair, mass the masser. If you want to make stats worth building, link them, make one ( like def ) essential for another ( like att ) to work.

As for ascended, they should either be linked both ways or not at all, why should ascended players not have to play main when main players are forced to play ascended, vacation should effect both, and personally I would go further, IMO PPT should also effect both, and the new main Unit type I suggested the 'worshiped' is one viable way of making ascended players play main just as main players are already forced to play ascended.

DeathIncarnator wrote:My thoughts :- Leave all as is

If it aint broke don`t fix it!

And as its not broken I ask myself why anyone would want to change it?

I presume this is a DDE ploy to get an edge or to gain an advantage somehow.

Not that thats ever been done before........

Please don`t veil attempts to undermine and destroy established ascended accounts. Some people have put it so much time and effort to build good accounts. I`m sick and tired of using these forums to try and **Filtered** others ascended accounts. If you want a better ascended account just log in and do some work every day......simples.

Actually its and FS ploy but still..the game is stupid stale and we need action in an action game, all this talk (in other threads) is not GW, I would rather mass back and forth with Mezz all day and lose all my UU than have to argue with him in the forums. and the ascended is so a player Like you cannot vac his main and play ascended and attack, thus no retaliation, thus is not gaming..so if your main gets vac'd it should affect ascended as ascended affects main when it gets vac'd at the very least equal value.

Jedi~Tank wrote:Remove defense repair
Remove Alliance PPT
Render ascended uselss if main is vac

share your thoughts

One should be removed one should stay, i think ppt should remain.
and yes on the 3rd point, it seems to be an oversight by admin.
If you want to remove both repair and ppt then remove alliance banks all together because it would be pretty much pointless to have them.

Well I think the alliance banks, and the ability to increase your own bank is a good one, but one that needs to go back to being cheap for the new alliances.

Tekki wrote:Well I think the alliance banks, and the ability to increase your own bank is a good one, but one that needs to go back to being cheap for the new alliances.

agree.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Tekki wrote:Well I think the alliance banks, and the ability to increase your own bank is a good one, but one that needs to go back to being cheap for the new alliances.

agree.

also agree

Jedi~Tank wrote:1. Remove defense repair
2. Remove Alliance PPT
3. Render ascended uselss if main is vac

share your thoughts

Note: i did edit your post in my quote, not much but just to keep my reply clean.

1.) if so remove attack as well. Also would like to see defense repair changed to putting entire alliance on highest value of Realm Alert and possibly Nox as well.

2.) Dont need to remove it, but possibly reduce it to half as much.

3.) 100% agreed

Tekki wrote:Well I think the alliance banks, and the ability to increase your own bank is a good one, but one that needs to go back to being cheap for the new alliances.

indeed

I left attack repair off the list because it does come in handy and it offsets the supers lost when attacking a bit, not only considering my personal preferance but also considering the smaller ones when they have to farm allot or fight back.

do it

Ryuujin Jakka wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Tekki wrote:Well I think the alliance banks, and the ability to increase your own bank is a good one, but one that needs to go back to being cheap for the new alliances.

agree.

also agree

Yep - makes sense to me

Jedi~Tank wrote:I left attack repair off the list because it does come in handy and it offsets the supers lost when attacking a bit, not only considering my personal preferance but also considering the smaller ones when they have to farm allot or fight back.

I fail to see how it benefits smaller players. It benefits the largest the greatest, and diminishes the smaller you are. 50M attack weapons being repaired for what is it these days, say 25B naq is a pretty darn good deal. Smaller players with say even 5M attack weapons, the repair cost is far closer to the alliance repair cost. Not to mention the income generated by larger alliances, compared with smaller alliances.

But maybe I'm missing something?

The only thing that would make it benefit the smaller players is if the cost is linked to the size of your alliance (as in army size) or the size is linked to the Cov lvl's and up of an alliance.
And with repair weapons the cost is based on the amount of weapons you have

Jedi~Tank wrote:Remove defense repair
Remove Alliance PPT
Render ascended uselss if main is vac

share your thoughts

removing defense repair and removing alliance ppt .. I do not care

but changing how ascended works that to me is a bad idea ... ascended has worked good for a long time and playing ascended while your on ppt or vacation is fine.

On ascended it takes a lot of time to build a half way descent account

You have to actually ascend to get one or buy them.

another thought is that there are accounts that are ostracized / deleted in main but still have the ascended account which are good farms and good farms for new ascended players.
example: old blahh account is a good farm etc...

Comador wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:Remove defense repair
Remove Alliance PPT
Render ascended uselss if main is vac

share your thoughts

but changing how ascended works that to me is a bad idea ... ascended has worked good for a long time and playing ascended while your on ppt or vacation is fine.

On ascended it takes a lot of time to build a half way descent account

vac'ing an ascended account because its main is vac'ed is a logical move, its not going to destroy the ascended server. It would remove a handful of accounts.