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Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:17 pm
by HippyFool
Covert power is whacked...
For example 1: see the post called Covert Bug by Mercury Rising..
For example 2:Person 1 has
Covert Action 721,853
Covert Skill: 15
Covert Operatives: 2,271
Cov tech: 75
NON-REPLI
Person 2 has
Covert Action 1,042,038
Covert Skill: 15
Covert Operatives: 2,271
Cov tech: 75
NON-REPLI
They should have the same. BUT person 2 has the covert stone so should have 6x the power of person 1... Either way it is whacked.
Also...if you try to spy the person with the cov stone I don't think you should lose spies as that isn't really fair as you have NO way of knowing, so there is literally just a spy bomb waiting to explode on unsuspecting spiers!
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Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:53 pm
by Arty Bang
covert and ac is messed up...example this guys covert is higher while i beat him in everything and no hes not a replicator nor have the covert stone or any fortifications
Covert Action 420,779
Covert Skill: 14
Covert Operatives: 1,800
power cells:50
while mine is
Covert Action 206,078
Covert Skill: 15
Covert Operatives: 2,821
power cells:85
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:45 pm
by Mercury Rising
@ hippy
I tried a recon on support on day 1 when he had the covert stone and I lost 300 spies.
I tried a recon on HE on day 2 when he had it and lost 600 spies. (was trying to compare UPs to assess my progress)
Im not complaining or anything but it did seem a bit harsh as i didnt know either of them had it at the time.
So like hippy suggested, perhaps instead of repelling the recon and killing spies. A simple message similar to that which you get when a player puts up a polorised shield could work? and spies left alive.
Something like "Try as they might, your spies could not breach the parametres of *insert name*. It appears as tho a mysterious and very powerful force is contributing to the barriers of *insert name* Realm.
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:44 am
by Mercury Rising
i think covert may have been put back into proportion now. not 100% sure on it tho.
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:02 am
by Forum
sometimes when a formula changes it can take a few hours to update every account (if i do not force it, and it is not attacked, which resets the values too).
if its not 'fixed' give me the 2 IDs that are different (but should not be) and i can see whats what.
Mercury Rising wrote:i think covert may have been put back into proportion now. not 100% sure on it tho.
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:14 am
by High Empty
HippyFool wrote:Covert power is whacked...
For example 1: see the post called Covert Bug by Mercury Rising..
For example 2:Person 1 has
Covert Action 721,853
Covert Skill: 15
Covert Operatives: 2,271
Cov tech: 75
NON-REPLI
Person 2 has
Covert Action 1,042,038
Covert Skill: 15
Covert Operatives: 2,271
Cov tech: 75
NON-REPLI
They should have the same. BUT person 2 has the covert stone so should have 6x the power of person 1... Either way it is whacked.
Also...if you try to spy the person with the cov stone I don't think you should lose spies as that isn't really fair as you have NO way of knowing, so there is literally just a spy bomb waiting to explode on unsuspecting spiers!
HOW TO GET COVERT POWER NOW
$minimum = $SpySkill;
$num=$spies * pow(2,$SpySkill);
$num = $num * $covertLevelAdds;
$num=sqrt($num) ;
$num=$num*((100+$user->coverttechs)/100);
$num=($num*10)+($spies*10);
if (repli style covert race bonus){
add race bonus }
$num=floor($num);
//covert stone
if($stoneHolder==1){$num*=6;}
and thats currently covert power. others work similar (ie AC and covert away)
Covert 129,456 Ranked: 37
Undercover Agents 2,795
lvl 14
techs 50
tech minor = 0
Covert 1,930 with 1 spy ------------------------------Benefit per spy 1,930
Covert 2,735 with 2 spies -----------------------------Benefit per spy 1,367.5
Covert 3,355 with 3 spies -----------------------------Benefit per spy 1,118
Covert 3,880 with 4 spies -----------------------------Benefit per spy 970
Covert 4,343 with 5 spies -----------------------------Benefit per spy 868.6
Covert 4,763 with 6 spies -----------------------------Benefit per spy 793
Covert 5,149 with 7 spies -----------------------------Benefit per spy 735
Covert 5,510 with 8 spies -----------------------------Benefit per spy 688
Covert 5,850 with 9 spies -----------------------------Benefit per spy 650
Covert 6,171 with 10 spies ----------------------------Benefit per spy 617
Covert 20,200 with 100 spies --------------------------Benefit per spy 202
Covert 70,715 with 1000 spies -------------------------Benefit per spy 70.7
Covert 105,865 with 2000 spies ------------------------Benefit per spy 52.9
so to rebuild that
lvl 14 covert
Covert power should equal to the following
14/2=(7)^.5 *
[{(number of spies)^ (2/
218?)*(14)}^.5 * (1.5)* 10 + (number of spies*10)]* race bonus* covert stone bonus
therefore if number of spies =1
{(number of spies)^ (2/218?)*(14)}^.5=1
1*1.5*10= 15
+ 1*10= 10 therefore it should be = 25.
So i must have something run and my lunch break is over..So i'm still thinking about this
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:42 am
by High Empty
Stone 6 6
Repi --------------1-----------------1
Tech -------------75----------------75
CovertLevel ---------15---------------15
Spies ---------------1-------------2271
Num1----32768------------- 32768------------- *=2^covertlevel
Num2----32768------------- 74416128--------- *=Num1*Number of spies
Num3----181.019336-------8626.478308----- *=Num2^.5*
Num4----316.783838-------15096.33704-----*=Num3 * ((tech/100)+1)
Num5----3167.83838-------150963.3704----- *=Num4 *10*
Num6--------------10------- 22710------------- *= Spies*10
Num7----3177.83838-------173673.3704----- *= Num6+Num5
Num8----3177.83838-------173673.3704----- *= Num7 * 1 or 1.3
Num9----19067.03028------1042040.222-----*= Num8 * (if Stone) * 6 if not = 1
So Hippy your covert is correct the other one hasn't reset.
This works for different covert levels and different techs
For MAJOR techs your going to have to add in another modifier after everything like "the race Bonus"
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:59 am
by High Empty
Covert Power = {(((2^a)*b)^.5)*(100+c)/100*10 + (b*10) } *(100+d)/100*(e)*(f)
a= Covert Level
b= number of spies
c= Tech Minor
d= Major Tech
e= Race (1 or 1.2)
F= Stone (1 or 6)
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:00 am
by maninho
i cant see any stone.
i'm sorry but this is a bug
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:04 am
by maninho
hehehe, maybe not....
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:09 am
by slx
I am still haveing major problems with my covert.
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:46 am
by wolfster
hi i am unable to make my self my own CO again. (yes it has been 24 hours)
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:16 pm
by Jimbo 5.3
There are currently 13 members in "The Immortals" alliance ( (1)tealc oneill, (2)Arty Bang, (3)fredfred1, (4)Flash, (5)devias, (6)xX_Cronus_Xx, (7)AyJay15, (8)High Empty, (9)General zac, (10)essox, (11)starscream, (12)Alex1981m, and (13)duncan).
Isn't the limit 12, or was that just for the previous wave?
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:35 pm
by Scenester
Jimbo 5.3 wrote:There are currently 13 members in "The Immortals" alliance ( (1)tealc oneill, (2)Arty Bang, (3)fredfred1, (4)Flash, (5)devias, (6)xX_Cronus_Xx, (7)AyJay15, (8)High Empty, (9)General zac, (10)essox, (11)starscream, (12)Alex1981m, and (13)duncan).
Isn't the limit 12, or was that just for the previous wave?
if there are only 11 ppl in the alliance and they send out 2 more invites which both accept u get 13..
Re: Bugs Era 28
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:22 pm
by Enter|Shikari
Scenester wrote:Jimbo 5.3 wrote:There are currently 13 members in "The Immortals" alliance ( (1)tealc oneill, (2)Arty Bang, (3)fredfred1, (4)Flash, (5)devias, (6)xX_Cronus_Xx, (7)AyJay15, (8)High Empty, (9)General zac, (10)essox, (11)starscream, (12)Alex1981m, and (13)duncan).
Isn't the limit 12, or was that just for the previous wave?
if there are only 11 ppl in the alliance and they send out 2 more invites which both accept u get 13..
...should this be fixed?