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~Coyle~ wrote:im aroused by picture frames

...just... wow

~Vix~ wrote:

~LordRse~ wrote:

RoKeT wrote:Say what you want fact is I just got scammed myself and I'll be damned if I let it happen to anyone else if I can help it your "noble" empire allows him to stay knowing damn well what he did, he wears YOUR tags and that makes him lOok safe.. He is NOT and someone else will be scammed because of it and that's not fair

So, who says he is gonna do it again?

Thus admitting OE are harboring a known $$$ Scammer.
Bad play dudes. Even i think $$ scamming is wrong.

Please read Vix, I never said i knew it. My leaders brought him back into OE, with good reasons probably, so who am I to NOT defend a fellow alliance member?

Ok, lets sort this simply.

RoKeT, if you wouldn't mind mate, post ALL the evidence to say that Korruption is a scammer.
OE, defend yourself/him. No one get petty, no one talk bout ingame massing. Just simple facts.
IF, FS is proven wrong and he isn not a scammer, matter is dropped. If the proof clearly shows that he is a $$ scammer, will OE agree to drop him?

Lets settle this properly fellas, and ladies

~Vix~ wrote:

~Coyle~ wrote:im aroused by picture frames

...just... wow

Im hear to spill my secrets and shock at the same time

If my dishes are too hot, let go of my plates!

~Coyle~ wrote:

~Vix~ wrote:

~Coyle~ wrote:im aroused by picture frames

...just... wow

Im hear to spill my secrets and shock at the same time

If my dishes are too hot, let go of my plates!

BOOM

~LordRse~ wrote:

RoKeT wrote:Lol hahaha nice pullin for straws LMAO

Wooohhh your "behind must be falling of off all the laughning you do

So what do you say? Instead of being here on the forum.. we could have some fun big boy

if you really want to mass me you can... after Harch ripped me off I have a 10mill army size bub thus proving my point more in this thread... you said it was a new recruiting method... you did say you knew... now you claim you don't... Wanting to mass me is weird last I knew we had no problems (although you have been hostile the last few posts but thought I was being paranoid me... infact wasn't it you that we used to have fun on beta together and laughs on facebook?) Either way your question what should I do not stick up for a team mate...???

Well the answer to that is really simple... Find out if the fact is the fact... if it is do you really want him on your team... If you do then obviously OE is allowing and harboring a Scammer... am I right? or wrong simple... Rse you can beat me in game but at least I'm winning the intellectual debate I'd much rather be smarter then better at a game

RoKeT wrote:

~LordRse~ wrote:

RoKeT wrote:Lol hahaha nice pullin for straws LMAO

Wooohhh your "behind must be falling of off all the laughning you do

So what do you say? Instead of being here on the forum.. we could have some fun big boy

if you really want to mass me you can... after Harch ripped me off I have a 10mill army size bub thus proving my point more in this thread... you said it was a new recruiting method... you did say you knew... now you claim you don't... Wanting to mass me is weird last I knew we had no problems (although you have been hostile the last few posts but thought I was being paranoid me... infact wasn't it you that we used to have fun on beta together and laughs on facebook?) Either way your question what should I do not stick up for a team mate...???

Well the answer to that is really simple... Find out if the fact is the fact... if it is do you really want him on your team... If you do then obviously OE is allowing and harboring a Scammer... am I right? or wrong simple... Rse you can beat me in game but at least I'm winning the intellectual debate I'd much rather be smarter then better at a game

If you are so good in debating, why you didnt see my sarcasm?

Well i did some investigation of the alleged "scam", Brothers sold Korruption an account that was a Queen of the ancient Gods ascended level, the ascended account was literally untouched (i mean totally, still had all the APP's from i believe all bar the 1st ascension unspent and less than 1 million planet size, yes million not billion), the MS was 400 bill total power, the covert and AC was so low 1 day farming would have got any competent player higher and it lacked enough UP to make the next ascension to King.

On July 30th last year he sold this account to Korruption for $150 including the 90ish million UU on the account. Now based on prices for the time that was a pretty bad deal, only the UU made it remotely acceptable but by no means any sort of bargain. Now Brothers claims he got Korruption to agree to keep the account in FS for 1 year and to fight DDE with it.

Obviously anyone who isn't a complete moron can easily see that account was not going to be doing much damage to the DDE power-houses without crippling losses. However Korruption did attempt to do so and after some time trying and having mediocre luck at best and receiving zero support from FS decided to start ascending the account instead of wasting millions of UU on a fruitless battle against more powerful enemies.

In total he was in FS for just about 6 months, early Feb he officially surrendered to DDE as can be confirmed in the GC thread as he was busy with RL and had better things to do than play GW as part of an alliance who just were not helping him do what they wanted him to do. True to his deal with Brothers he actually offered the account back to FS via PM's sent to Mezz and Brothers on this very forum. He said they could have it back for $175, at the time the account was Ascended up to Origin, the MS was around 1t power and the ascended account was 400m CER, 750-800 personals, decent military stats, enough planets to allow farming pretty much anyone.

Mez replied that he didn't think it was worth it and added a huge sob-story about how he was annoyed with the apparent lack of effort by Korruption Vs DDE, Brothers never even had the common decency to reply.

I myself PM'd both Mez and Brothers over the issue to try and get to the bottom of the issue after Korruption joined Alpha, i have multiple PM's to both of them asking for proof of, well, anything. Everything Korruption told me i have verified via Forum posts here and Paypal logs. I gave both Mez and Brothers my MSN and neither have so much as added me to their contacts list to discuss anything at all.

On top of that at the time Korruption left FS and offered his account back to them for a mere $25 more than he paid and putting naq equivalent of approximately 2 quad into it, Brothers said he wanted 200m UU to "settle the debt". At the time Easy posted about this on this very forum that had changed to $60, last time Korruption was contacted about this by FS the amount had risen to $160 to settle the debt.

So lets be blunt here, Brothers sold Korruption a bunch of crap for $150, the account was in war and improved multiple ascensions, from literally nothing to pretty reasonable on ascended server, and offered back to them after 6 months which they refused.

Oh yeah, someone here is definitely being underhand, but i can assure you it is not Korruption.

Oh and if anyone wants to discuss the exact details i am more than happy to provide links to all the evidence i have uncovered about this.

Oh and for good measure Brothers has been threatening Huxley for being Korruptions commander, but since Brothers sucks he had his ass kicked and lot half his army size like a putz to Huxley not too long before the server issues cropped up.

So yeah, OE are sooooooo scared of the threats from a sad little extorter who can't even keep his facts straight about a deal, nor provide a shred of evidence about this deal he apparently signed with Korruption to enslave him to FS for a year or give the account back, which he actually offered to do for a mere $25 after huge personal investment by himself over a 6 month period. Oh, and lets not forget cannot even be bothered to contact someone trying to resolve the situation.

So i hope that answers your Question Mr.Roket.

Well a can say thats aload of crap and also brothers handed huxley his own ass if im not mistaken. Anyway ill leave this to Brothers and mezz to swing by

Also think about something, a long term player, a player who knows the markets quite well (Korruption), you really believe he would buy an account that was crap, that was totally **Filtered** for that moeny, now think about that and who to believe cause apart from the ascensions and improvements in ascended that really all that had changed Now think about that one.

PS - Mezz dosnt use MSN to much as his computer keeps crashing

I have confirmed paypal receipt numbers for the payment with a time stamp, confirmed time stamp for his surrender to DDE on this forum, have seen screen shots of the forum PM's sent offering the account back, have seen FS asking for $60, then more, then more on this fourm in the other thread easy made about this issue.

I have not had Mez or Brothers on MSN to discuss this at all, i have had only excuses about the old FS forum being unaccessible where there was apparently a thread about the account.

Now if the story from FS to OE had actually not changed pretty much every time it gets told, the amount owed continually being increased and OE only receiving threats and fail-masses from Brothers over the issue we may have some reason to actually believe it, but hey you know what, i am convinced Brothers is full of **Filtered** and just trying to extort 2x the initial value paid for the account and lets face it that account was not even worth the $150 in the 1st place.

But hey, you putz's can continue to whine about it if you want, until we actually get any evidence that:

a: the account was actually worth the $310+ Brothers seems to think it was worth in July last year

b: Korruption agreed to stay in FS for a year

c: The part of the deal that meant he could give the account back to FS for pretty much what he paid for it (hell you didn't even try and negotiate with him to get it back for cost, you flat out rejected the offer) was not allowed.

So let me assure you Brothers is not getting a dime more than the $150 he already got which was a damn good price for that account at that time, in the state it was in.

if you want to stand by him good luck, better hop out the house though and find another coz it's OUR house and we are not going anywhere.

See this is the problem with this issue, i bring verified facts to the table, you bring "my mate says".

~Coyle~ wrote:
Also think about something, a long term player, a player who knows the markets quite well (Korruption), you really believe he would buy an account that was crap, that was totally **Filtered** for that moeny, now think about that and who to believe cause apart from the ascensions and improvements in ascended that really all that had changed Now think about that one.

Also our old forums are not accessable and no the story stayed the same and no 2x the value of the account wouldnt be right, he could have given back the 90mil on the account at least and im sure it would have come to a halt and yes brothers mentioned many times to him on the forums about the account staying in FS. And again look at my above comment cause the account was in good shape regardless of what he said. Corey is a smart guy and wouldnt pay dollar for **Filtered** so attack that point please

Ill be back soon so if you wanna throw threats around about a house ill be sure to visit you, i think you have enough on your plate with TAF, I respect OE and have good relations with a few in there so id prefer to settle this with getting mud thrown all over my new dress

If you wanna chat get me on msn

toodles_344@hotmail.com

you don't expect Brothers to pay for the AT's Naq and UU's used to mass him over and over again, If you have made a deal... and you DO NOT keep to your deal... YOU SIR ARE A SCAMMER!!!!

I like Korruption I've told Corey this I"m sorry it has to be this way, but he owes a debt and it's damn wrong to allow it to go... Market prices drop he had the account you ADMITTED for 6 months... THEN HE WANTS 25 MORE then it was worth 6 months ago... NAH NAW NAH NAW NAH NAW and you know it GARBAGE

an account drops how much would you say in 6 months... Well I believe I'm one of the best traders in the game most known and done probably the most sales HELL I had a god damn Account sales thread (enough tooting of my own horn ) ... so let me give you an official quote...

Accounts drop approximatly 1/4th of there value every 6 months and thats being nice... So... if he owed him resources or cash for the trade you expect brothers to fork out more money after that much of a price drop come off it and you know it

There has already been a thread about Corey breaking the conditions of the account he was sold and wont pay the balance between what it was worth at the time and the price he got it for on the conditions he broke

viewtopic.php?f=101&t=182031&hilit=easy+corey

It's also been mentioned in several other threads in the market place and GC

So no need to revisit old ground on that one.



As for OE allowing him into Alpha despite having lost at least one account in the same way in the past ( Almost38 who FS booted a day after he joined when we found out what he had done ), and despite the fact he apparently neglected to mention in his Alpha application the fact FS having been sitting on him & blocking his attempted sales for several months trying to get this debt paid.

While I am extremely disappointed in OE's decision and lack of support in this matter ( Which has forced FS to leave the Oldschool House, a house I personally suggested to Admin to make and really wanted to be in ), I dont see any benefit to arguing it out here. OE recruitment policy and is up to them.

FS will continue to sit on Corey until he pays up or quits regardless of what alliance he hides in/behind. It's not just about the money, it's about the principal and broken trust.


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@ Borek, since you insist on arguing

1) When your account was taken by Almost38 and we had just let him into FS, OE came to us and said 'this guy has taken our account without paying, he is a scammer please kick him'. Didnt matter if he got the best deal int the world or the worst, he broke the deal, didnt pay up and we kicked him. Corey does the same to us and you respond in a very different way.

2) I already told you your figures are wrong, check with Brother for correct figures. I cant check prices on accounts & resources unless admins/mods here have some kind of archive from 1.5 years ago but regardless of what you think of the deal, the deal was made and all parties were happy with it at the time. Corey didnt have to agree, he could have bought any number of accounts, he bought this one BECAUSE at the time the conditional discount made it his best option with the funds he had.

3) Corey did nothing in the FS war effort except take free resources, he farmed, PPTed & ascended. We had several lesser accounts ascending with low stats for most the war, they can all contribute with planet strips and mopping up it's not like we expected him to build big or take out big defs.

4) Proof, we never asked you for proof of your deal with Almost38, why ? because anything on here can be faked, it comes down to trust. We dont have a signed contract or MSN logs from 1.5 years ago, we changed our forum this year so even the posts on that are lost and Brother home PC is only a year old, his old PC from 1.5 years is long since scrapped.

5) None of this matter now, our position is clear & fixed & OE has made it's decision, and as usual Corey has other people intervening on his behalf while he himself does nothing.


ps Brother kept training and fighting, Huxley went to PPT as soon as he ran out of lifers so Brothers went back to massing Corey some more, he barely dented Brothers armysize and didnt kick anyones ass or even prevent the massing on Corey lol

pps Why I dont contact you on MSN, well as Coyla said My internet does tend to crash when on MSN. But also I contacted OE HC over this, not sure why you're even in the argument and no real interest in talking to you.

MEZZANINE wrote:There has already been a thread about Corey breaking the conditions of the account he was sold and wont pay the balance between what it was worth at the time and the price he got it for on the conditions he broke

viewtopic.php?f=101&t=182031&hilit=easy+corey

It's also been mentioned in several other threads in the market place and GC

So no need to revisit old ground on that one.



As for OE allowing him into Alpha despite having lost at least one account in the same way in the past ( Almost38 who FS booted a day after he joined when we found out what he had done ), and despite the fact he apparently neglected to mention in his Alpha application the fact FS having been sitting on him & blocking his attempted sales for several months trying to get this debt paid.

While I am extremely disappointed in OE's decision and lack of support in this matter ( Which has forced FS to leave the Oldschool House, a house I personally suggested to Admin to make and really wanted to be in ), I dont see any benefit to arguing it out here. OE recruitment policy and is up to them.

FS will continue to sit on Corey until he pays up or quits regardless of what alliance he hides in/behind. It's not just about the money, it's about the principal and broken trust.


EDIT


@ Borek, since you insist on arguing

1) When your account was taken by Almost38 and we had just let him into FS, OE came to us and said 'this guy has taken our account without paying, he is a scammer please kick him'. Didnt matter if he got the best deal int the world or the worst, he broke the deal, didnt pay up and we kicked him. Corey does the same to us and you respond in a very different way.

2) I already told you your figures are wrong, check with Brother for correct figures. I cant check prices on accounts & resources unless admins/mods here have some kind of archive from 1.5 years ago but regardless of what you think of the deal, the deal was made and all parties were happy with it at the time. Corey didnt have to agree, he could have bought any number of accounts, he bought this one BECAUSE at the time the conditional discount made it his best option with the funds he had.

3) Corey did nothing in the FS war effort except take free resources, he farmed, PPTed & ascended. We had several lesser accounts ascending with low stats for most the war, they can all contribute with planet strips and mopping up it's not like we expected him to build big or take out big defs.

4) Proof, we never asked you for proof of your deal with Almost38, why ? because anything on here can be faked, it comes down to trust. We dont have a signed contract or MSN logs from 1.5 years ago, we changed our forum this year so even the posts on that are lost and Brother home PC is only a year old, his old PC from 1.5 years is long since scrapped.

5) None of this matter now, our position is clear & fixed & OE has made it's decision, and as usual Corey has other people intervening on his behalf while he himself does nothing.


ps Brother kept training and fighting, Huxley went to PPT as soon as he ran out of lifers so Brothers went back to massing Corey some more, he barely dented Brothers armysize and didnt kick anyones ass or even prevent the massing on Corey lol

pps Why I dont contact you on MSN, well as Coyla said My internet does tend to crash when on MSN. But also I contacted OE HC over this, not sure why you're even in the argument and no real interest in talking to you.

Well as i said in my PM's to you i am on the OE HC which is why i investigated the matter and contacted you. We are not going to set up a group convo when you can't even be arsed to contact 1 person over it.

As for Almost38 then that was not the same, he paid half the deal for his account, not the FULL PRICE, there was a wealth of evidence available but yes you booted him without asking which was appreciated. However i am willing to bet he didn't even try and deny what he had done meaning you actually had no reason to think it was not a scam.

Yes you are correct Corey was happy with the deal, however he paid $150 and he tells me he never agreed to pay more if he left FS early, he claimed the deal to stay in FS was "until the war with DDE ended" and not for a full year so yes even under that deal he was not honouring it which i fully accept, however he OFFERED THE ACCOUNT BACK.

Did you come back to him and say you'd pay the $150 if it had the 90m UU on it to match the initial deal? Nope, you flat out turned him down, no effort to negotiate, all he had was threats that he would be sat on unless he paid 200m more UU, which subsequently changed to ever-increasing amounts of cash.

Oh and incase anyone is interested about the thread made on this forum:

viewtopic.php?f=101&t=182031

Note the 1st post where easy claims the account was given to him, note that Mezz posts that the account was given to him for half the worth of the account midway down the 1st page. So you 2 can't even agree on whether it was given to him for free or given to him at half the price.

So i did some questioning myself to find out the real truth:

31 Jul 2010 Payment To
leanne edmunds
Completed Details Payment To leanne edmunds 6CK28635V42075511 -$50.00 USD
Select record 50 31 Jul 2010 Payment To
leanne edmunds
Completed Details Payment To leanne edmunds 0FD79342JC756363F -$100.00 USD


Ok so he got that account for less than half what it was worth Mez, meaning it was worth over $300 in July last year. Full of **Filtered** mate, full of **Filtered**