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Juliette wrote: We agree, then. Like I said, the idea is not a cure, but it might make child molestation in churches a less prevalent occurrence. Of course, deranged and dangerous individuals need to be exterminated, as remains my core conviction.
And then there is the enormous gap of knowledge regarding child molestation in the even more closed off muslim world.. I will not believe this to be a Catholicism/Christianity-exclusive. At least we are talking about it, contrary to certain other religions.
Legendary Apophis wrote:Well, there are paedophils outside of church who happen to be married (or not), so I guess you will not be able to prevent 100% of potential paedophilia, because some people are just paedophils whatever access to marriage/union/etc...
Kit-Fox wrote:Sorry Folks, Joyless Mods who clearly have nothing better to play about with are forcing a retraction. It appears freindly conversation isnt welcome in GIDT anymore.
Juliette wrote:Cool it, Ashu, and join the debate instead. If you want to defend the Bible, Catholicism, and anything related, do so with words instead of power. Do not deflect something that might touch on your personal views.Malx wrote:Perhaps I stuttered in my post, take one more shot at the Bible, Catholicism and anything related and this thread is closed. Either this subject is debated intelligently and in a mature manner or we don't do it at all.
I am quite sure everyone here would be interested to hear what you have to say on the matter, actually.
CCexy wrote:just so this agruement isnt one sided
http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Bab ... abuse1.htm
heres a list of protestant clergy or people working for protestant churchs who also do what your claiming only the RC church does that is wrong. The fact is it isnt reported as much why? because media outlets choose not to but dont go thinking its all just the one church
2nd the truth is the actual percentage of priests this corrupted was around less than 7percent. BUT the hype makes it sound like 50 percent or more
[KMA]Avenger wrote:CCexy wrote:just so this agruement isnt one sided
http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Bab ... abuse1.htm
heres a list of protestant clergy or people working for protestant churchs who also do what your claiming only the RC church does that is wrong. The fact is it isnt reported as much why? because media outlets choose not to but dont go thinking its all just the one church
2nd the truth is the actual percentage of priests this corrupted was around less than 7percent. BUT the hype makes it sound like 50 percent or more
Very true, but the problem is that the Vatican pretends to be the moral and spiritual centre for all of Christendom, yet here they are blocking investigations and extraditions of paedophile priests. the Vatican even went as far to send an email to the Irish Catholic priesthood NOT to defrock these sickos.
The Vatican and the pope should be put on trial for crimes against humanity!
^My personal opinion of course.
Malx wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:CCexy wrote:just so this agruement isnt one sided
http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Bab ... abuse1.htm
heres a list of protestant clergy or people working for protestant churchs who also do what your claiming only the RC church does that is wrong. The fact is it isnt reported as much why? because media outlets choose not to but dont go thinking its all just the one church
2nd the truth is the actual percentage of priests this corrupted was around less than 7percent. BUT the hype makes it sound like 50 percent or more
Very true, but the problem is that the Vatican pretends to be the moral and spiritual centre for all of Christendom, yet here they are blocking investigations and extraditions of paedophile priests. the Vatican even went as far to send an email to the Irish Catholic priesthood NOT to defrock these sickos.
The Vatican and the pope should be put on trial for crimes against humanity!
^My personal opinion of course.
Certainly not all Christendom, just catholics.
%% make me lulz.
Psyko wrote:Malx wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:CCexy wrote:just so this agruement isnt one sided
http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Bab ... abuse1.htm
heres a list of protestant clergy or people working for protestant churchs who also do what your claiming only the RC church does that is wrong. The fact is it isnt reported as much why? because media outlets choose not to but dont go thinking its all just the one church
2nd the truth is the actual percentage of priests this corrupted was around less than 7percent. BUT the hype makes it sound like 50 percent or more
Very true, but the problem is that the Vatican pretends to be the moral and spiritual centre for all of Christendom, yet here they are blocking investigations and extraditions of paedophile priests. the Vatican even went as far to send an email to the Irish Catholic priesthood NOT to defrock these sickos.
The Vatican and the pope should be put on trial for crimes against humanity!
^My personal opinion of course.
Certainly not all Christendom, just catholics.
%% make me lulz.
It's not about Catholics vs. the rest of Christianity. Most cases involving a child abuser in a protestant church were not defended or protected by a higher church power. The pedophiles were charged without an official obstruction on the part of their church or body of faith. In the case of the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican has obstructed justice, ignored the problem, and sworn the victims to secrecy to protect their own asses. They should have come forward, had the priests step down from their positions, and helped police bring the pedophiles to justice. They did not, which makes the Vatican liable to be arrested for obstruction of justice and even conspiracy charges (depending on which country you are in).
I can guarantee you that anyone who interfered in bringing the protestant churches to justice were most likely charged for obstructing an investigation. But because of the power the Vatican possesses, and the fact Vatican City has its own laws, they have been able to continue to behave irresponsibly and even support child molesters by moving them to new areas where they can get their grubby mitts on new victims.
[KMA]Avenger wrote:Psyko wrote:Malx wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:CCexy wrote:just so this agruement isnt one sided
http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Bab ... abuse1.htm
heres a list of protestant clergy or people working for protestant churchs who also do what your claiming only the RC church does that is wrong. The fact is it isnt reported as much why? because media outlets choose not to but dont go thinking its all just the one church
2nd the truth is the actual percentage of priests this corrupted was around less than 7percent. BUT the hype makes it sound like 50 percent or more
Very true, but the problem is that the Vatican pretends to be the moral and spiritual centre for all of Christendom, yet here they are blocking investigations and extraditions of paedophile priests. the Vatican even went as far to send an email to the Irish Catholic priesthood NOT to defrock these sickos.
The Vatican and the pope should be put on trial for crimes against humanity!
^My personal opinion of course.
Certainly not all Christendom, just catholics.
%% make me lulz.
It's not about Catholics vs. the rest of Christianity. Most cases involving a child abuser in a protestant church were not defended or protected by a higher church power. The pedophiles were charged without an official obstruction on the part of their church or body of faith. In the case of the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican has obstructed justice, ignored the problem, and sworn the victims to secrecy to protect their own asses. They should have come forward, had the priests step down from their positions, and helped police bring the pedophiles to justice. They did not, which makes the Vatican liable to be arrested for obstruction of justice and even conspiracy charges (depending on which country you are in).
I can guarantee you that anyone who interfered in bringing the protestant churches to justice were most likely charged for obstructing an investigation. But because of the power the Vatican possesses, and the fact Vatican City has its own laws, they have been able to continue to behave irresponsibly and even support child molesters by moving them to new areas where they can get their grubby mitts on new victims.
That's what i was trying to say but i am as articulate as you are...
Well said sir
Psyko wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:Psyko wrote:Malx wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:CCexy wrote:just so this agruement isnt one sided
http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Bab ... abuse1.htm
heres a list of protestant clergy or people working for protestant churchs who also do what your claiming only the RC church does that is wrong. The fact is it isnt reported as much why? because media outlets choose not to but dont go thinking its all just the one church
2nd the truth is the actual percentage of priests this corrupted was around less than 7percent. BUT the hype makes it sound like 50 percent or more
Very true, but the problem is that the Vatican pretends to be the moral and spiritual centre for all of Christendom, yet here they are blocking investigations and extraditions of paedophile priests. the Vatican even went as far to send an email to the Irish Catholic priesthood NOT to defrock these sickos.
The Vatican and the pope should be put on trial for crimes against humanity!
^My personal opinion of course.
Certainly not all Christendom, just catholics.
%% make me lulz.
It's not about Catholics vs. the rest of Christianity. Most cases involving a child abuser in a protestant church were not defended or protected by a higher church power. The pedophiles were charged without an official obstruction on the part of their church or body of faith. In the case of the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican has obstructed justice, ignored the problem, and sworn the victims to secrecy to protect their own asses. They should have come forward, had the priests step down from their positions, and helped police bring the pedophiles to justice. They did not, which makes the Vatican liable to be arrested for obstruction of justice and even conspiracy charges (depending on which country you are in).
I can guarantee you that anyone who interfered in bringing the protestant churches to justice were most likely charged for obstructing an investigation. But because of the power the Vatican possesses, and the fact Vatican City has its own laws, they have been able to continue to behave irresponsibly and even support child molesters by moving them to new areas where they can get their grubby mitts on new victims.
That's what i was trying to say but i am as articulate as you are...
Well said sir
Future record: I lack the anatomy of a sir.
I thought I would help you reiterate your point.
Also, to add to my post. People would be just as upset with a foreign government shielding pedophiles as they currently are with the Vatican. The only reason no one has approached the Vatican with any legal case is because everyone is too afraid to touch anything that has to do with a religion. If the Vatican did not have religious ties, this crap wouldn't be allowed to continue, in my opinion.
