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Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:51 pm
by Sol
seraphim wrote:
Lithium wrote:leave it as it is , its not worth any change


+1

all you will do by rewarding ppl for decending someone is get nuts decending worthless ascended accounts just for the "numbers" .. leaving not many farms for those trying to grow etc..

1. if people descend worthless accounts then why oh why would people farm those accounts anyway?
2. regardless, people will still descend for the sake of descending, just like people taking down 50 mill spies on a small defence in main or sabbing out an insane defence with very small covert.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:15 am
by Quina Quen
There are some miserable people about I swear. You try and pioneer new ideas and people have nothing productive to contribute.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:18 am
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
General Riviera / Diamond Dust,
many of us appreciate SoL's efforts, and yet still disagree with something here or there...

and so far, most have been quite respectful in this particular thread. :smt060



SoL, just a friendly FYI,
I farm a lot of accounts that have been descended at least once...

for starters, it's possible to "tag a PPT" on ascended just like with main...

and their doesn't seem to be any damage to income production from descension...

unless they are actively warring, in which case having income planets killed or retrained for battle is inevitable.



As for my opinion on the idea:
I wouldn't mind some public acknowledgement of descension kills on the server...

except for the encouragement factor of giving bored players
any further move toward an ascended version of Military Experience.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:20 am
by Sol
It's all good, there isn't a desperate need for a reward when you descend someone, but its a bit bland as it is.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:00 am
by [BoT] Jason
%stat bonus for 48 hours that gets eliminated on the next direct assault...


% based on power up differentials.

Like a ratio of 1:1 is 5%, 2:1 is 2.5 % and 1:2 is 10%


Or something like that

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:14 pm
by ~Tziki~
ToC or Def rewards depending on the respective account that you descend? for example if you have 4b ToC and descend someone with the highest possible ToC and Defenses... you should recieve +x levels or +x bonus levels to spend where you want. But if you have 4b toc and descend someone with personals of like 10-50 you should recieve nothing. This way it stops people descending for just **Filtered**'s and giggles and gives ascended battles a bit more reason to take place other than because it helps you in a war.


It can also increase the amount of ascended battles happening FORCING players to take notice of ascention server.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:42 pm
by Lithium
~Tziki~ wrote:ToC or Def rewards depending on the respective account that you descend? for example if you have 4b ToC and descend someone with the highest possible ToC and Defenses... you should recieve +x levels or +x bonus levels to spend where you want. But if you have 4b toc and descend someone with personals of like 10-50 you should recieve nothing. This way it stops people descending for just **Filtered**'s and giggles and gives ascended battles a bit more reason to take place other than because it helps you in a war.


It can also increase the amount of ascended battles happening FORCING players to take notice of ascention server.



exploitable

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:31 pm
by ~Tziki~
Lithium wrote:
~Tziki~ wrote:ToC or Def rewards depending on the respective account that you descend? for example if you have 4b ToC and descend someone with the highest possible ToC and Defenses... you should recieve +x levels or +x bonus levels to spend where you want. But if you have 4b toc and descend someone with personals of like 10-50 you should recieve nothing. This way it stops people descending for just **Filtered**'s and giggles and gives ascended battles a bit more reason to take place other than because it helps you in a war.


It can also increase the amount of ascended battles happening FORCING players to take notice of ascention server.



exploitable


Much like a lot of mechanics in the game, but then it takes time to descend people, especially with higher levels and LF, meaning the time taken to exploit it would be very difficult and time consuming. + once descended your descended for 2 weeks, not to mention possible other negative outcomes that could be added in for being descended to stop people abusing this function to build themselves up.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:47 am
by Gohan
Sol, would there be a way to see if a player had been onto either Asc and main within 7days? If so, how about going with the ranking idea? Each set of 10 descensions get you a new shiny title, like the titles on main. However, if you start descending the small 3-hit inactive accounts, inactive on both servers, it isn't counted towards you're title/total kills. Would mean people have to descend, at the very least, semi-active people. Seems like a compromise between what peoples have been saying...

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:11 pm
by Sol
Hope wrote:Sol, would there be a way to see if a player had been onto either Asc and main within 7days? If so, how about going with the ranking idea? Each set of 10 descensions get you a new shiny title, like the titles on main. However, if you start descending the small 3-hit inactive accounts, inactive on both servers, it isn't counted towards you're title/total kills. Would mean people have to descend, at the very least, semi-active people. Seems like a compromise between what peoples have been saying...

I do have a 'last login time' record i think somewhere in the db, and i suppose it could be counted for levels in the vicinity of down 10% of the attackers and anything greater than.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:21 pm
by Thel
What about a % increase to ascension points earned for a few days? Something small so it doesn't give a huge advantage to players descending nubs/inactives :smt050

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:44 am
by Lore
make it so it only counts to deascend someone equal or greater to you. Make it so deascending dead/noobie accounts actually "hurt" your repritation as a power god?

Personally I dont care for the idea, but I am not against it. As long as it makes sense, and it has meaning. (killing noobie/dead accounts should not be rewarded)

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:17 pm
by Sol
Lore wrote:make it so it only counts to deascend someone equal or greater to you. Make it so deascending dead/noobie accounts actually "hurt" your repritation as a power god?

Personally I dont care for the idea, but I am not against it. As long as it makes sense, and it has meaning. (killing noobie/dead accounts should not be rewarded)

The problem with punishing the people who kill noobies is it practically kills of a whole side of game play, same story with the snipers on main.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:44 pm
by pc
rewards for descensions ...NO

It would hurt the game if anything.

Re: rewards for descensions

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:05 pm
by Mathlord
No need to have a reward for descending people...descending someone is reward enough. Maybe make the list of top ten descenders more public instead of all "anonymous". Then people can get their moment in the sun.