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Re: A question

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:34 pm
by MEZZANINE
Semper wrote:Well.. you can't get treatment for it. Saying to get treatment for sexual feelings for children is no different than saying a homosexual should get psychiatric help. :D



I pretty sure they do treat Peado's, counseling, drugs, association therapy etc

And it's not the same as Homo's, there is a BIG difference between the sexual orientation of consenting adults who do no harm to anyone else and Child abuse.

Re: A question

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:34 pm
by Psyko
Semper wrote:Well.. you can't get treatment for it. Saying to get treatment for sexual feelings for children is no different than saying a homosexual should get psychiatric help. :D

Well...there is chemical castration. :-k

Re: A question

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:21 pm
by Juliette
Psyko wrote:
Semper wrote:Well.. you can't get treatment for it. Saying to get treatment for sexual feelings for children is no different than saying a homosexual should get psychiatric help. :D
Well...there is chemical castration. :-k
And amputation of hands, eyes, tongue and mind? Missed the boat. Treatment does not exist. Solitary confinement is an idea. ;)

Re: A question

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:41 pm
by Psyko
Julietta Putina wrote:
Psyko wrote:
Semper wrote:Well.. you can't get treatment for it. Saying to get treatment for sexual feelings for children is no different than saying a homosexual should get psychiatric help. :D
Well...there is chemical castration. :-k
And amputation of hands, eyes, tongue and mind? Missed the boat. Treatment does not exist. Solitary confinement is an idea. ;)

I'd support house arrest with restricted access to cable and the internet over solitary confinement.

Re: A question

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:41 pm
by Juliette
Psyko wrote:
Julietta Putina wrote:
Psyko wrote:
Semper wrote:Well.. you can't get treatment for it. Saying to get treatment for sexual feelings for children is no different than saying a homosexual should get psychiatric help. :D
Well...there is chemical castration. :-k
And amputation of hands, eyes, tongue and mind? Missed the boat. Treatment does not exist. Solitary confinement is an idea. ;)

I'd support house arrest with restricted access to cable and the internet over solitary confinement.
Swing from corporal punishment to a pretty room? That was fast.. :P

Re: A question

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:53 pm
by Psyko
Julietta Putina wrote:
Psyko wrote:
Julietta Putina wrote:
Psyko wrote:
Semper wrote:Well.. you can't get treatment for it. Saying to get treatment for sexual feelings for children is no different than saying a homosexual should get psychiatric help. :D
Well...there is chemical castration. :-k
And amputation of hands, eyes, tongue and mind? Missed the boat. Treatment does not exist. Solitary confinement is an idea. ;)

I'd support house arrest with restricted access to cable and the internet over solitary confinement.
Swing from corporal punishment to a pretty room? That was fast.. :P

I said chemical castration was an option, not that I supported its use.

Re: A question

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:43 pm
by Drought
the fact the guy is needing someone else to confide in is telling me he is regressing and needs someone to spill his gutts too to relinquish himself of the growing fear in his head of the ever growing disturbing thoughts, making him feel better when you do not do anything with it, as its likely to tell the guy, 'its not all that bad'

I would advice a shrink, and if he doesnt accept, I would tell the propper authorities to have him checked out
a guy working with kids telling you how he is sexually interrested in them, but been able to restrain himself so far.
you would be an idiot not to undertake actions.

Re: A question

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:26 am
by semper
MEZZANINE wrote:
Semper wrote:Well.. you can't get treatment for it. Saying to get treatment for sexual feelings for children is no different than saying a homosexual should get psychiatric help. :D



I pretty sure they do treat Peado's, counseling, drugs, association therapy etc

And it's not the same as Homo's, there is a BIG difference between the sexual orientation of consenting adults who do no harm to anyone else and Child abuse.


They treat the ones that are morbidly engrossed in their sexuality and/or have undertaken deviant means of pursuing it the same as they would heterosexual rapist's who pursue their sexuality in deviant ways. Regular peados just go to jail for acting upon their desires same as any old rapist except they get the honour of going on a list as well so they feel extra special.

You're also being fairly ignorant here Mezz. You're saying ALL peado's are criminals.. homo's were no different 50/60 years ago in the eyes of society/law... whilst actually only the ones who act upon it are theoretically criminals.. otherwise it's just a base sexual desire same as being attracted to men or women, homo, hetero... ancient times it wasn't a huge problem to have fun with younger children, same as it was accepted being a homosexual. Who's to say in 50/60 years time from now paedophilia won't be an accepted sexuality?

Of course it's not the general norm.. same with people who are homosexual or interested in bestiality and there will always be people who will try and seek professional help to overcome it and there will always be a money grabbing psychologist there to oblige.. but it won't do nothing.. it's just a con right now as they don't even know how these feelings develop. Is it nature or nurture? TBA i'm told...

Re: A question

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:09 am
by RepliMagni
I think there's another dimension here - you need to look out for number one: cover your own backside. What if he has done something in the past, or does do in the future, and it later comes out that you knew of his predilection?

Re: A question

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:11 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Forgetting what i wrote earlier, and being a bit more direct...prevention is better than dealing with the aftermath.
If they confide in me i would report them. i couldn't live with myself if i knew beforehand and did nothing trusting they would not act on their sick fantasy. there's also the point that RepliMagni brings up, that they could well have already acted on their fantasy.

Re: A question

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:20 pm
by semper
RepliMagni wrote:I think there's another dimension here - you need to look out for number one: cover your own backside. What if he has done something in the past, or does do in the future, and it later comes out that you knew of his predilection?


Indeed.

Re: A question

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:40 pm
by Rudy Peña
RepliMagni wrote:I think there's another dimension here - you need to look out for number one: cover your own backside. What if he has done something in the past, or does do in the future, and it later comes out that you knew of his predilection?

1, If you know about it and it turns out he did it in the past, you wont get in trouble. You didnt know about this feelings before the crime happened, so there is nothing bad about it.


2. If you know about it and he does do the crime......you arnt responsible due to the fact you had no prior knowledge he was going to do it in the future.

He put his trust in you that he was able to finally tell someone who he knows so well and trust you enough to be able to keep it to yourself.

Do you rat out everyone who has that kind of trust in you? No you dont, this is not any different.

You are basically telling anyone and everyone that, if you think it warrants letting the law enforcement know. They will not put there trust in you.

Re: A question

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:30 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Rudy Pena wrote:
1, If you know about it and it turns out he did it in the past, you wont get in trouble. You didnt know about this feelings before the crime happened, so there is nothing bad about it.



It doesn't matter when you find out about the crime, if you are told of a crime and you don't report it you are guilty after the fact, and if this hypercritical person is caught and it comes to light he told you, you can also be charged with the knowledge and stand trial.

I'm no law expert so i'm heavily relying on those with more knowledge of the law than me, but i can see at least 3 charges for knowing of a serious crime and failing to report it.



Rudy Pena wrote:2. If you know about it and he does do the crime......you arnt responsible due to the fact you had no prior knowledge he was going to do it in the future.



That doesn't really make any sense, or am i misreading/misunderstanding what you have written? :-k

You say, "If you know about it and he does do the crime......you arnt responsible", Yes you are responsible because you had foreknowledge a crime was going to be committed and failed to report it.
In this case you are guilty before the fact, and not reporting it makes you an accomplice.


Here you say "you had no prior knowledge he was going to do it in the future", well, i have to ask the question how can "you know about it and he does do the crime" if "you had no prior knowledge he was going to do it in the future. "?



Regardless, the bottom line is this...whether you find out about a crime before or after the crime has been committed, a crime the police have no knowledge of and you fail to report it before or after the fact makes you every bit as guilty as the perp. knowing before makes you an accomplice and is called, "guilty before the fact". finding out about a crime after the crime has been committed and not reporting it can also make you an accomplice and is called guilty after the fact. both of those are SERIOUS crimes in their own right.