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[KMA]Avenger wrote:Being Gay is a disease, in some cases it's a disease of the mind (mental problem, need to seek counselling) and in some cases it's a disease of the body (chemical imbalance messing with the mind). in both cases the patient needs help, not marriage, and defo not a same sex partner.

You guys should know me well enough that I HATE ANY intrusion into the life of a private citizen by the state so long as said citizen has done no wrong but in this case...the state should kill them all such is my hate and contempt for these sick people...of course, the trouble with the state taking care of this problem is that the state are nearly all homo's themselves....

Conundrum or irony?! anyways, they should all seek immediate help or be put to death...PERIOD!

Now I see why people voted you poster of the year...your witty sarcasm is very effective. KMA is clearly parodying the extremist conservative views on these issues.

As for anyone who seriously believes the above quote - surely you're the one who should be put to death? Actually advocating killing someone just because they love someone of the same sex? Sounds like you're the one who needs help....

Going back to the actual conception of same-sex marriage, I really don't see why people hold the above views, or JT/Roket's view that homosexuality is somehow responsible for the decline of a country? Is it really that scary for some people? Live and let live

I find it funny that a man such as myself who used to be classed as "normal" and moral for having a lovely wife and 3 lovely boys can be classed as abnormal for hating someone who themselves are abnormal, and those who are abnormal and immoral can now be classed as "normal".



Just in case there is any doubt with what i said before, i was not being sarcastic and meant every word i said...having said that, homosexuality CAN be cured....

If memory serves, last year (i think) a British doctor was fired for curing people of this particular "disease".


I can't be arsed to look. go find the news article yourselves if you are interested.


And just for the record, i have VERY personal reasons for having the opinion that do on this matter. something i am not willing to discuss or even hint at. you guys have no right to even judge me so please stop.

Bigotry is still bigotry, regardless of the reasons.

There's really nothing that can shock me out of that statement. One of my best friends is pretty damned racist and believes that she has damned good reasons for it. However there is pretty much no good reason for such broad hatred.

There is nothing wrong with being different. And morality is whatever the flavor of the month. There is no morality.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:And just for the record, i have VERY personal reasons for having the opinion that do on this matter. something i am not willing to discuss or even hint at. you guys have no right to even judge me so please stop.

You opened that can of worms yourself though.
From what I read around the forums about you, apart from your paranoia, you can be very rational and are quite open minded to certain situations
Your outburst here is somewhat "out of profile" to say the least
And in all honesty, people are going to speculate now Too far...

And I disagree with Dovahkiin, morality is as simple as using comon sense

Dovahkiin wrote:Bigotry is still bigotry, regardless of the reasons.

I beg to differ. without going into details about my reasons, i can't expect you to understand my position on this.

Dovahkiin wrote:There is nothing wrong with being different. And morality is whatever the flavor of the month. There is no morality.

That much is obvious.



Just for the record, i am NOT racist, (not saying that's what you said. i'm simply being clear), i simply hate queers, gays...whatever you want to call them!

Duck Dodgers wrote:You opened that can of worms yourself though.

Fair enough, nothing wrong with asking people to be descent about it though

Duck Dodgers wrote:From what I read around the forums about you, apart from your paranoia,

LOL!

Duck Dodgers wrote:you can be very rational and are quite open minded to certain situations

TY!

Duck Dodgers wrote:Your outburst here is somewhat "out of profile" to say the least
And in all honesty, people are going to speculate now

Again, fair enough

No, I don't think your racist. But it is bigotry to hate a group of individuals based on sexuality. It is extremism to call for the genocide of these individuals.

Dovahkiin wrote:No, I don't think your racist. But it is bigotry to hate a group of individuals based on sexuality. It is extremism to call for the genocide of these individuals.

Very true, with the exception of killing all the "royalty" of Europe, bankers and crooked politicians-it's the only time you will catch me calling for such action with such passion.

Romance is dead.

[spoiler]Over-politicising killed it.[/spoiler]

Duck Dodgers wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:And I disagree with Dovahkiin, morality is as simple as using comon sense

Morality is a bull **Filtered** concept based largely on religious teachings and imposed on society as a whole.

The fact that what people believe to be moral changes drastically from person to person, region to region is proof of this.

Further, common sense does not exist. That which is often heralded as common sense is simply knowledge generally believed to be known to all. But since knowledge must first be learned, even the must basic of tenants, and not all have the ability or opportunity to learn everything, there can exist no common sense as it generally understood.

Puerile forget that common does not equate all and that knowledge must first be learned.


@G: I can't fault you for that.

If homosexuality can be 'cured' George, then surely you could take the same view on heterosexuality, asexuality, pansexuality and what ever other types of sexuality. Which in my mind is a pretty shallow means of looking at things. If you don't like who others are (whether you believe that they chose the way they are or whether it is the will of nature) then I guess that is your problem.

Supposing your best friend, after years of torrid mental self loathing and underlying hate for himself due to repressed homosexual feelings finally mustered the courage to tell you that he was gay and in fact had feelings for you? Would you run a mile, banish him with complete rejection or remember that this person has been one of the best things in your life for a long time?

[KMA[Avenger wrote:Very true, with the exception of killing all the "royalty" of Europe, bankers and crooked politicians-it's the only time you will catch me calling for such action with such passion.

Dovahkiin wrote:
@G: I can't fault you for that.

Nobody can fault me for that, ESPECIALLY if you are American





@Louis, On the 1st paragraph, disagree on every level.


On the 2nd paragraph, let me reply by telling you a short story....

I had a cousin who i grew up with from aged 6 to 35. we hang out every single day, i was closer to this cousin than i was with my own mum and dad, brothers and sister. i got married and started my own family but we still remained close and saw each other at least 3 times a week. he got married and things changed. something happened that was so petty i can't even remember what it was. his Mrs got offended and he sided with her instead of explaining things to her and allowing me to apologise...i told him to **Filtered** off and never speak to me again for making things MUCH worse than what they really were...


Does that answer your last question mate?


Edit, how are you keeping these days Louis?

I would imagine some following reaction to be something like "but your vendetta-like reaction to a petty thing does not explain your reaction to a big thing like homosexuality" etcetera.

Julietta Putina wrote:I would imagine some following reaction to be something like "but your vendetta-like reaction to a petty thing does not explain your reaction to a big thing like homosexuality" etcetera.

A pre-written response. You're very useful Juliette

I'm all well and good George. Not gay yet though - so we're still friends right?

The point being my dear Julietta, is that i would not hesitate to dump anybody, even family if i had in my mind just cause to do so.

General Riviera wrote:
I'm all well and good George. Not gay yet though - so we're still friends right?

Just so long as you are not queer, i'm cool matey!

A thought, please don't tell me you still play SGW?

I don't play main, just Quantum. The part-timers version of GW! Can't stay from this damn board though. I realised after 7 years that I am far too lazy to play main competitively and gone are the days of AK.

Back to the topic though if I may - You say you wouldn't hesitate to drop anyone? That's a bit harsh isn't it? If someone came out as homosexual and were your friend before hand you would be inclined to tell them to go their separate way even if they made no advances on you whatsoever?

Sex is sex. It's so massively stigmatised though by people who can be argued as having closed-minds. I'm not suggesting you are entirely close minded George, because you have a lot of outlooks on a hell of a lot of things but this, I dunno, baffles me for a man of your intelligence.

I just hope for you kids' sake that one of them doesn't grow up and struggle to be able to tell you he/she was gay because of your stance on the whole thing.