Red XIII wrote:If you don't wish to ascend - At least make the G n R points transferrable to naq at least...
Point remains though - It's pointless having them if you can't do anything else with them other than ascend if you don't wish to ascend..
But the whole point of G&R was for ascension - so my question is 'Why should they be used for anything else?' If people do not wish to ascend it is THEIR CHOICE!
The reason I am opposed to this is twofold: Firstly, because I
believe (but am not sure) that if and when descension happens, then if a player is descended from the ascended server, they will lose their bonuses in the main server (please correct me if I am wrong).
Now, if this is to happen, it hardly seems fair for somebody else to benefitting from an ascension function (G&R) to gain bonuses which CANNOT be removed from them because it is a non-ascension bonus.
Like I said though - I could be barking up the wrong tree here.
Secondly, touched on above, is because G&R is SPECIFICALLY an Ascension function.
Additionally, Reaver's point is well made:
Reaver wrote:Think about it, who's already holding the top spots again? Living Gods. That means they're getting G&R now and if what you want goes into effect, they're going to have ascended five times, with all those bonuses, and then they're going to start using the G&R points the same way you are after their 5th ascension and they'll just be even more powerful than those who haven't ascended. It seems to me that this idea will only make the multi-ascended even more powerful.
There may, however, be a compromise.........
What about the possibility of being half-ascended? It will still cost exactly the same in G&R, but only half the amount of ascension power points. Then, for the purpose of this, the player can 'attempt' to ascend - but will be 'unable' to - therefore becoming a half-ascended being, keeping their old race, the account is reset with half the prior bonuses, weapons strengths/costs etc.
However, there would be no additional half-ascensions possible - as I do not believe you should be able to half-ascend more than once.
Should the half asended player then decide they actually wish to ascend properly, they would once again have to achieve the required G&R, and half the required ascension points.
The alternative is to allow all ascended beings to retain their old race (Garak was, after all, still a Jaffa once he became a prior), and then once ascended you can either play in ascended or simply put your account into permannet vacation mode.
Happy to take suggestions/commenst on how either of these could be improved..... - but I think they are, realistically, the only alternatives that would a) not upset existing Asecnded players (mainly because they might've chosen this instead of ascending (I would have)), and b) Like Reaver said - the already powerful will become more powerful.
im all for this idea 
as i would just not have the time at the moment for another server to deal with 
