StarGateWars Forums

Rudy Pena wrote:unless admin makes alliances, just like main.

This cant happen. Till then this shouldnt be allowed to happen as theres no way to control it as a small group of people can change details of there tags to pretend to be another alliance or empire.

Explain.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:unless admin makes alliances, just like main.

This cant happen. Till then this shouldnt be allowed to happen as theres no way to control it as a small group of people can change details of there tags to pretend to be another alliance or empire.

Explain.

In main anyone can create an alliance or join one, in ascended you cant do that. Only way to let people know what alliance you are in main is by the tags.

Therefore, this cant be put in either beta or live without admin adding the option for people to make alliances just like in main.

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:unless admin makes alliances, just like main.

This cant happen. Till then this shouldnt be allowed to happen as theres no way to control it as a small group of people can change details of there tags to pretend to be another alliance or empire.

Explain.

In main anyone can create an alliance or join one, in ascended you cant do that. Only way to let people know what alliance you are in main is by the tags.

Therefore, this cant be put in either beta or live without admin adding the option for people to make alliances just like in main.

Well, Main and ascend accounts are linked right? SOL says he can make it so the ascended accounts that correspond with its main account can be locked in very easy. The trick to that is both parties being able to find that account. Which shouldnt be too hard as most of us have near complete data bases on ID's.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:unless admin makes alliances, just like main.

This cant happen. Till then this shouldnt be allowed to happen as theres no way to control it as a small group of people can change details of there tags to pretend to be another alliance or empire.

Explain.

In main anyone can create an alliance or join one, in ascended you cant do that. Only way to let people know what alliance you are in main is by the tags.

Therefore, this cant be put in either beta or live without admin adding the option for people to make alliances just like in main.

Well, Main and ascend accounts are linked right? SOL says he can make it so the ascended accounts that correspond with its main account can be locked in very easy. The trick to that is both parties being able to find that account. Which shouldnt be too hard as most of us have near complete data bases on ID's.

Thats true.

What about if someone is on vac mode and they unvac mode in both servers. Would they be auto put this realm as there alliance?

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:unless admin makes alliances, just like main.

This cant happen. Till then this shouldnt be allowed to happen as theres no way to control it as a small group of people can change details of there tags to pretend to be another alliance or empire.

Explain.

In main anyone can create an alliance or join one, in ascended you cant do that. Only way to let people know what alliance you are in main is by the tags.

Therefore, this cant be put in either beta or live without admin adding the option for people to make alliances just like in main.

Well, Main and ascend accounts are linked right? SOL says he can make it so the ascended accounts that correspond with its main account can be locked in very easy. The trick to that is both parties being able to find that account. Which shouldnt be too hard as most of us have near complete data bases on ID's.

Thats true.

What about if someone is on vac mode and they unvac mode in both servers. Would they be auto put this realm as there alliance?

If a player is on vac in the alliance they are still in the alliance, so I would say yes..but I wonder if its possible to where ONLY those OFF vac can participate and the ones on vac can do nothing.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:unless admin makes alliances, just like main.

This cant happen. Till then this shouldnt be allowed to happen as theres no way to control it as a small group of people can change details of there tags to pretend to be another alliance or empire.

Explain.

In main anyone can create an alliance or join one, in ascended you cant do that. Only way to let people know what alliance you are in main is by the tags.

Therefore, this cant be put in either beta or live without admin adding the option for people to make alliances just like in main.

Well, Main and ascend accounts are linked right? SOL says he can make it so the ascended accounts that correspond with its main account can be locked in very easy. The trick to that is both parties being able to find that account. Which shouldnt be too hard as most of us have near complete data bases on ID's.

Thats true.

What about if someone is on vac mode and they unvac mode in both servers. Would they be auto put this realm as there alliance?

If a player is on vac in the alliance they are still in the alliance, so I would say yes..but I wonder if its possible to where ONLY those OFF vac can participate and the ones on vac can do nothing.

That might be possible, but it would likely be abused by say one alliance wants to do it. But have there weak members who would be little to no help at all go on vac mode till after the realm takes effect, come off and wont be in it thus they can work on getting there account stronger with little to no massing/DMing and the sort.

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:unless admin makes alliances, just like main.

This cant happen. Till then this shouldnt be allowed to happen as theres no way to control it as a small group of people can change details of there tags to pretend to be another alliance or empire.

Explain.

In main anyone can create an alliance or join one, in ascended you cant do that. Only way to let people know what alliance you are in main is by the tags.

Therefore, this cant be put in either beta or live without admin adding the option for people to make alliances just like in main.

Well, Main and ascend accounts are linked right? SOL says he can make it so the ascended accounts that correspond with its main account can be locked in very easy. The trick to that is both parties being able to find that account. Which shouldnt be too hard as most of us have near complete data bases on ID's.

Thats true.

What about if someone is on vac mode and they unvac mode in both servers. Would they be auto put this realm as there alliance?

If a player is on vac in the alliance they are still in the alliance, so I would say yes..but I wonder if its possible to where ONLY those OFF vac can participate and the ones on vac can do nothing.

That might be possible, but it would likely be abused by say one alliance wants to do it. But have there weak members who would be little to no help at all go on vac mode till after the realm takes effect, come off and wont be in it thus they can work on getting there account stronger with little to no massing/DMing and the sort.

An alternative is for anyone that wants to represent their alliance go into a temporary alliance , which is basically what we have Commandos for. This will help alliances weaker members too..like our war for example, Commandos v Omega and Titans v Shadows, this way both training alliances and the small and mid level players get to actually play, or mix and match members to however it suits a particular alliance. There are options. Even players from different alliances can be grouped in an alliance v alliance blood war for the fun of it.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:unless admin makes alliances, just like main.

This cant happen. Till then this shouldnt be allowed to happen as theres no way to control it as a small group of people can change details of there tags to pretend to be another alliance or empire.

Explain.

In main anyone can create an alliance or join one, in ascended you cant do that. Only way to let people know what alliance you are in main is by the tags.

Therefore, this cant be put in either beta or live without admin adding the option for people to make alliances just like in main.

Well, Main and ascend accounts are linked right? SOL says he can make it so the ascended accounts that correspond with its main account can be locked in very easy. The trick to that is both parties being able to find that account. Which shouldnt be too hard as most of us have near complete data bases on ID's.

Thats true.

What about if someone is on vac mode and they unvac mode in both servers. Would they be auto put this realm as there alliance?

If a player is on vac in the alliance they are still in the alliance, so I would say yes..but I wonder if its possible to where ONLY those OFF vac can participate and the ones on vac can do nothing.

That might be possible, but it would likely be abused by say one alliance wants to do it. But have there weak members who would be little to no help at all go on vac mode till after the realm takes effect, come off and wont be in it thus they can work on getting there account stronger with little to no massing/DMing and the sort.

An alternative is for anyone that wants to represent their alliance go into a temporary alliance , which is basically what we have Commandos for. This will help alliances weaker members too..like our war for example, Commandos v Omega and Titans v Shadows, this way both training alliances and the small and mid level players get to actually play, or mix and match members to however it suits a particular alliance. There are options. Even players from different alliances can be grouped in an alliance v alliance blood war for the fun of it.

Yea, thats a good idea also.

It should be relatively easy to have the ascended 'locked in' just as easily as it would be in main. No need for alliances.
I would suggest preventing descension hits for those not in the blood realm battle.


So in effect, the ascendeds should then only be descend-able by the ones from the opposing alliances in the blood realm.

By means of a reference check, mainid <=> ascendedid, combined with checking whether the hitter and defender are in the same blood realm, the game could determine if a descension hit is allowed or not. Simply hide the button for a none blood realm participant when looking at a player page who IS in blood realm.

Effectively, leaving the rest of the ascended functions in tact for everyone, none blood realm participants including (dmu farming, normal attacks, etc)

I like the idea it will be fun if it happened but main question is will admin agree to it??

Duck Dodgers wrote:It should be relatively easy to have the ascended 'locked in' just as easily as it would be in main. No need for alliances.
I would suggest preventing descension hits for those not in the blood realm battle.


So in effect, the ascendeds should then only be descend-able by the ones from the opposing alliances in the blood realm.

By means of a reference check, mainid <=> ascendedid, combined with checking whether the hitter and defender are in the same blood realm, the game could determine if a descension hit is allowed or not. Simply hide the button for a none blood realm participant when looking at a player page who IS in blood realm.

Effectively, leaving the rest of the ascended functions in tact for everyone, none blood realm participants including (dmu farming, normal attacks, etc)

So you're suggesting you can only descend someone in the blood realm... well wouldnt that be simple for people who dont want to play ascended to just leave their accounts and not play them and keep their main bonuses...

Blood realm isnt a bad idea if it can be regulated so that its not abused, allowing descention hits only in the bloodrealm is not a good idea...

marshall wrote:

Duck Dodgers wrote:It should be relatively easy to have the ascended 'locked in' just as easily as it would be in main. No need for alliances.
I would suggest preventing descension hits for those not in the blood realm battle.


So in effect, the ascendeds should then only be descend-able by the ones from the opposing alliances in the blood realm.

By means of a reference check, mainid <=> ascendedid, combined with checking whether the hitter and defender are in the same blood realm, the game could determine if a descension hit is allowed or not. Simply hide the button for a none blood realm participant when looking at a player page who IS in blood realm.

Effectively, leaving the rest of the ascended functions in tact for everyone, none blood realm participants including (dmu farming, normal attacks, etc)

So you're suggesting you can only descend someone in the blood realm... well wouldnt that be simple for people who dont want to play ascended to just leave their accounts and not play them and keep their main bonuses...

Blood realm isnt a bad idea if it can be regulated so that its not abused, allowing descention hits only in the bloodrealm is not a good idea...

euhh ... I meant for targets those that are in blood realm.
If not in blood realm normal rules obviously apply.

When your in blood realm with another alliance on main, you should only be descendable (during the blood realm period) by someone from the opposing alliance in the blood realm.

confused.
So you're saying descension is the only attack type locked in by the blood realm? all other functions still roll whether in or out of blood?

Sol wrote:confused.
So you're saying descension is the only attack type locked in by the blood realm? all other functions still roll whether in or out of blood?

Yes, was aiming for that.

Effectively leaving the ascended account able to do everything else, by everyone.
But when it comes to getting descended while in blood realm, only able by players in the opposing alliance.


In short, yeah, just lock in descensions for blood realm.

hmmm, not a bad idea, but it would mean you couldnt really count stats to declare a winner. I guess you could add an option to include ascended, disclude it totally, or just have descension included.