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Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:18 pm
by Am Heh
I hit him a few times, here u go
15:17 A LEE BOW 0 Naquadah stolen 12 69,557 174,976 41,652,595,330,300 details
15:17 A LEE BOW 0 Naquadah stolen 12 70,976 190,468 22,242,335,732,300 details
15:16 A LEE BOW 131,380,775,434 Naquadah stolen 12 72,425 388,270 20,509,658,944,700 details
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:42 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
Am Heh wrote:I hit him a few times, here u go
15:17 A LEE BOW 0 Naquadah stolen 12 69,557 174,976 41,652,595,330,300 details
15:17 A LEE BOW 0 Naquadah stolen 12 70,976 190,468 22,242,335,732,300 details
15:16 A LEE BOW 131,380,775,434 Naquadah stolen 12 72,425 388,270 20,509,658,944,700 details
So my account has a bug, or he took the cheat off??? Besides you did 41 tril on a blessing and still lost almost a third and he only has 3.5 tril defence. Something seems a tad bit off about that

Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:18 pm
by Am Heh
Someone with a similar defense
18:16 0 Naquadah stolen 12 31,588 56,188 41,569,108,749,200 details
18:16 0 Naquadah stolen 12 31,907 49,791 45,386,862,755,500 details
18:16 190,064,534,269 Naquadah stolen 12 32,230 51,099 43,557,376,065,900
I think ur guy, might have def planets
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:30 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
Am Heh wrote:Someone with a similar defense
18:16 0 Naquadah stolen 12 31,588 56,188 41,569,108,749,200 details
18:16 0 Naquadah stolen 12 31,907 49,791 45,386,862,755,500 details
18:16 190,064,534,269 Naquadah stolen 12 32,230 51,099 43,557,376,065,900
I think ur guy, might have def planets
to make it over a million to 0 on losses? planets would not matter the total damage is total damage....
Dec 26, 21:34 Belsamber Attack defended 15
66,541 401,016 1,648,976,745,900
3,530,876,749,82811:44 A LEE BOW Attack defended 15
0 1,002,519 858,658,022,012
3,408,916,860,640Yes I understand that I had lower strike second time, but so did he, and it was half, so should have had half losses would be around 10K losses, that is being generous using the calc maths. I killed 0......and clearly on belsy I killed 60K and only lost less than half.....so the math is wrong no matter which way you look at it hack or not...
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:57 pm
by donais
Dr. Walter Bishop™ wrote:Am Heh wrote:Someone with a similar defense
18:16 0 Naquadah stolen 12 31,588 56,188 41,569,108,749,200 details
18:16 0 Naquadah stolen 12 31,907 49,791 45,386,862,755,500 details
18:16 190,064,534,269 Naquadah stolen 12 32,230 51,099 43,557,376,065,900
I think ur guy, might have def planets
to make it over a million to 0 on losses? planets would not matter the total damage is total damage....
Dec 26, 21:34 Belsamber Attack defended 15
66,541 401,016 1,648,976,745,900
3,530,876,749,82811:44 A LEE BOW Attack defended 15
0 1,002,519 858,658,022,012
3,408,916,860,640Yes I understand that I had lower strike second time, but so did he, and it was half, so should have had half losses would be around 10K losses, that is being generous using the calc maths. I killed 0......and clearly on belsy I killed 60K and only lost less than half.....so the math is wrong no matter which way you look at it hack or not...
half the strike doesnt mean half the losses, especially if you have mercs and he has supers or u have un armed men
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:35 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
That is why i put 1/6 and not half. It was 60K, and i used 10K for my example......
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:55 pm
by wasmguy
Kjarkur wrote:It's quite normal that the attacker looses far more then the defender
donais wrote:half the strike doesnt mean half the losses, especially if you have mercs and he has supers or u have un armed men
I am with KJ and donias on this. Defender always takes a lot less losses all things being equal
IF he has planets, supers, MS, AB etc and you have mercs, normal attackers, no AB etc it can tend to really skew the figures. I think your logs are well within the realm of possibilty
Dr. Walter Bishop™ wrote:11:44 A LEE BOW Attack defended 15 0 1,002,519 858,658,022,012 3,408,916,860,640
sO, i lose over a million with nox/crit on, and he loses 0 men.......
AND NO IT WAS NOT A HOLOGRAM.
You copped devestating damage (IE your strike was less than the 35% required to do him damage) hence you got massive losses while he had none (nox/crit has no effect here)
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:19 am
by xDaku
Just post your battle log for that attack and people can do calcs easy peasy. Multiple attacks don't prove anything lol
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:50 am
by BenjaminMS
Just like wasmguy says.... you did get an devastating damage.... interesting though that you saw the true defense, and not just 'a massive amount' in damage. Or have you replaced the devastating damage with something from intel logs?...
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:19 am
by Duderanch
Just can't help with stupidity I guess

Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:12 am
by ~wolverine~
Duderanch wrote:Just can't help with stupidity I guess

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Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:00 pm
by wasmguy
Dr. Walter Bishop™ wrote:I want to see the math equations please, i would kill with a 1/5 of that or more if I wanted too....
Jump on the dev server (
http://dev.gatewars.com/index.php)with a friend for a few hours and test out a few different builds and the losses of the attacker/defender associated with each
one of my own logs
15:48 XXXX 299,072,741,033 Naquadah stolen 15 442,518 52,075 4,487,615,364,960 10,754,383,735,000 details
XXXX sent:
1 Assassin and 26,421,617 Super Soldier and 17,088,544 Raiders
Careful and thourough observation records that the troops were armed as follows:
26,421,617 Super Soldier have Armed Military Fleet
1,578,383 Raiders have Armed Military Fleet
15510161 Raiders came unarmed!
Opposite this, stood the forces of wasmguy
wasmguy resisted the aggressors with:
4,166,053 Super Guards and Home Guard
Careful and thourough observation records that the army carried the following arsenal:
1,000 Super Guards have Death-Glory Infusion Pulsarator
4,000,000 Super Guards have Targeted Black Holes
165053 Super Guards came unarmed!
now there was no AB's but I had MS and planets backing me and it gave the exact sort of log you had
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:36 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
Duderanch wrote:Just can't help with stupidity I guess

Nope. Calcs for this game have been stupid since around 2007-ish. You are right about that....
@ BJ - No you are right that is soooo weird it would show the damage....that is because that WAS the total damage. And I am just wanting either a fix to this, or the same math to do this little trick if that is what it is....last I checked math was math and an attack was an attack.
Just saying.'
This will be closed. Thanks for all the help, but as I said, I believe the game's math has been off for awhile....
HAPPY NEW YEAR@ DUDE - no u
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Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:27 pm
by BenjaminMS
This is an centuries-old bug in the system which causes the defenders' damage to be seen like nothing special happened instead of a 'devastating damage' message. In randomly wrecks up from time to time, and I've never been able to determine the cause of it. It moves from both 'barely reached devastating' to 'completely devastated', so personally I'm at a loss what the conditions are for the bug to trigger.
Re: POSSIBLE HACKER OR CHEATER.....
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:32 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
BenjaminMS wrote:This is an centuries-old bug in the system which causes the defenders' damage to be seen like nothing special happened instead of a 'devastating damage' message. In randomly wrecks up from time to time, and I've never been able to determine the cause of it. It moves from both 'barely reached devastating' to 'completely devastated', so personally I'm at a loss what the conditions are for the bug to trigger.
Thanks for the clarification. And it is what I thought, math bug. I did the math up on your example, and you had same percents on attack and defence, yet lost over 50% less net **Filtered**.
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