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Yup. Conspirationists who love to sell their books and get rich over the paranoia of the people, are just as bad (if not worse!) as the people they accuse of trying to rule the world.

Jedi~Tank wrote:You are watching it from a media perspective that is nothing more than a tabloid soap opera view. Look at it from a historical perspective.

What has already been, will be again and what has not been has already been.

Decifer- history repeats itself. Dats a fact jack

Little do you know how true a statement that is. Obama is trying it as we speak. And So were the Bushes. We have not had a real president that wasn't a puppet since Kennedy, and look where it got him and his brother.....

We are trying to stop history from repeating, and change the future. Secrecy is not the way to go.
Shutting out the world from anyone's plight is WRONG. PERIOD.
So I agree with anon on this topic as well as 90% of the rest they do.
Planet Venus, not a fan, but I as a free thinker can weigh evidence and make my own mind up JT. As can you if you want to. This is debate, no need to throw insults, or slap emoticons because you disagree. It is in intelligent debate central, not galactic war topic

Juliette wrote:Yup. Conspirationists who love to sell their books and get rich over the paranoia of the people, are just as bad (if not worse!) as the people they accuse of trying to rule the world.

I am not supporting any author.
I am standing for free information through the internet.
Big difference. And all those examples just got thrown out the window by you.
Gladio, Fast and Furious. They were conpspiracies until they were proven to be right. Now they are "neccesary to ensure western freedoms". Gimme a break!
Why the hell can't we just mind our own backyards before they are overthrown by the new bill they are pushing that includes gunning down citizens who refuse to comply?

Kennedy was an incompetent tyrant, who is only remembered fondly because the people got stuck in the post-election love rush when he was shot. (And because of that bold claim about getting people to the moon. Dex, you know, your same 'alarmist' (better word?) friends say that there is no such thing as the moon? That amuses me.)


As for throwing things out the window.. yes. Maybe. Maybe I am complacent. I will admit that. What is it to you, though? Why should I care? If I am content to die the way I am going to (in several trillion years, though, I am an old soul, big imagination), why does that pose a problem?
I am a fan of civil disobedience. I do what I am told, to an extent both me and my government agree on is acceptable. Besides, it would cost the state too much income in taxes if they end me. So yeah, go ahead. Come at me with your "shoot down civvies" laws.



Also, the concept of 'free information' is laughable. There is no such thing. There never was such a thing. There never will be such a thing. Who do you think controls the internet?

Juliette wrote:Kennedy was an incompetent tyrant, who is only remembered fondly because the people got stuck in the post-election love rush when he was shot. (And because of that bold claim about getting people to the moon. Dex, you know, your same 'alarmist' (better word?) friends say that there is no such thing as the moon? That amuses me.)


As for throwing things out the window.. yes. Maybe. Maybe I am complacent. I will admit that. What is it to you, though? Why should I care? If I am content to die the way I am going to (in several trillion years, though, I am an old soul, big imagination), why does that pose a problem?
I am a fan of civil disobedience. I do what I am told, to an extent both me and my government agree on is acceptable. Besides, it would cost the state too much income in taxes if they end me. So yeah, go ahead. Come at me with your "shoot down civvies" laws.



Also, the concept of 'free information' is laughable. There is no such thing. There never was such a thing. There never will be such a thing. Who do you think controls the internet?

That issue has been addressed as well. SOPA, etc.
True enough, and I stated if you want to believe in something you do not need even reasons, as I believe in freedom.

Jules, come on now. You have to read my entire posts first
I said I don't agree with all they believe. I said they are an ally because they strive to keep as much information out there that mainstream media hides.
And plus, the moon doesn't exist, it was made of cheese, and a trolling mouse ate it!!

Dr. Walter Bishop™ wrote:

Juliette wrote:Kennedy was an incompetent tyrant, who is only remembered fondly because the people got stuck in the post-election love rush when he was shot. (And because of that bold claim about getting people to the moon. Dex, you know, your same 'alarmist' (better word?) friends say that there is no such thing as the moon? That amuses me.)


As for throwing things out the window.. yes. Maybe. Maybe I am complacent. I will admit that. What is it to you, though? Why should I care? If I am content to die the way I am going to (in several trillion years, though, I am an old soul, big imagination), why does that pose a problem?
I am a fan of civil disobedience. I do what I am told, to an extent both me and my government agree on is acceptable. Besides, it would cost the state too much income in taxes if they end me. So yeah, go ahead. Come at me with your "shoot down civvies" laws.



Also, the concept of 'free information' is laughable. There is no such thing. There never was such a thing. There never will be such a thing. Who do you think controls the internet?

That issue has been addressed as well. SOPA, etc.
True enough, and I stated if you want to believe in something you do not need even reasons, as I believe in freedom.

As much as I truly love the idea of freedom, I find it incredibly hard to believe in something that has never truly existed...

Now here is a "free" thinking post. Ironic post

Juliette wrote:Yup. Conspirationists who love to sell their books and get rich over the paranoia of the people, are just as bad (if not worse!) as the people they accuse of trying to rule the world.

They convict themselves with their own words sweetheart



A quote from David Rockefeller's autobiography 'Memoirs' -
6-11-6

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will.

If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."



Nope, nothing to see here folks. move along

[KMA]Avenger wrote:

Juliette wrote:Yup. Conspirationists who love to sell their books and get rich over the paranoia of the people, are just as bad (if not worse!) as the people they accuse of trying to rule the world.

They convict themselves with their own words sweetheart



A quote from David Rockefeller's autobiography 'Memoirs' -
6-11-6

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will.

If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."



Nope, nothing to see here folks. move along

Anyone who strives for anything less than world dominance is not worth considering a proper human.

Occupy movement
Anonymous activists merged with Occupy Wall Street protesters. Anonymous members descended on New York's Zucotti Park and organized it partly. After it became known that some Occupy protesters would get violent, Anonymous used social networking to urge Occupy protesters to avoid disorder. Anonymous used Twitter trends to keep protests peaceful.[42]
A similar protest occurred outside the London Stock Exchange in early May 2012 during a May Day Occupy protest.[43]
Internet pedophilia
Alleged Internet predator Chris Forcand, 53, was charged with child sexual and firearm offenses.[44] A newspaper report stated that Forcand was already being tracked by "cyber-vigilantes before police investigations commenced.[45] A television report identified a "self-described Internet vigilante group called Anonymous" who contacted the police after some members were "propositioned" by Forcand. The report stated this was the first time a suspected Internet predator was arrested by the police as a result of Internet vigilantism.[46]
In October 2011, "Operation Darknet" was launched as an attempt to cease the activities of child porn sites accessed through hidden services in the deep web.[47] Anonymous published in a pastebin link what it claimed were the user names of 1,589 members of Lolita City, a child porn site accessed via the Tor network. Anonymous said that it had found the site via The Hidden Wiki, and that it contained over 100 gigabytes of child pornography. Anonymous launched a denial-of-service attack to take Lolita City offline.

Yep, sounds like real dangerous cats, stopping violent protesting with peaceful protesting instead, and taking out child molesters. Real rough bunch this anonymous :/

Juliette wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:

Juliette wrote:Yup. Conspirationists who love to sell their books and get rich over the paranoia of the people, are just as bad (if not worse!) as the people they accuse of trying to rule the world.

They convict themselves with their own words sweetheart



A quote from David Rockefeller's autobiography 'Memoirs' -
6-11-6

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will.

If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."



Nope, nothing to see here folks. move along

Anyone who strives for anything less than world dominance is not worth considering a proper human.

Please tell me that was RolePlay or a troll Jules
Proper Humans do what seperates us from animals. We enjoy loving each other and work together without violence to solve many problems. From nuns, to anonymous, Proper Humans do the proper thing and stand up to tyrannical governments and/or organizations.

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Dr. Walter Bishop™ wrote:Republican from Texas sums it up well.

RP is the man. If Team Obama had a shred of integrity they would have exposed the massive voter fraud in the repub. primaries. Santorum literally couldn't get 100 people to come to a single speech in IA yet you guessed it he won IA. Romney had his loyalists planted firmly in hundreds of crucial voting districts as you guessed it the freaking tally witnesses lol.

Like something from a movie! Entire Paul districts mysterious became 55/45 Romney victories. Team Obama could have pulled Romneys card on this fraud and won by a landslide. Makes one very suspicious why they didn't.

Look up the RP vs Ben Stein one. Completely random and inappropriate antisemitism accusation and a highly amusing one at that. Stein just about makes antisemitism seem like a good thing. Ben Stein should maybe shut his face and stick to ClearEyes commercials.

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He says a little bit of what Ron Paul does, in a way that has no fear of losing his congressional influences. Ron Paul is a hero, and should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Dr. Walter Bishop™ wrote:He says a little bit of what Ron Paul does, in a way that has no fear of losing his congressional influences. Ron Paul is a hero, and should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

I agree. RP is the man. I cannot be convinced otherwise. A long shot yes but he might have been the last chance at keeping the ship afloat long term.