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Stop being so dramatic about it. It was an honest mistake. He used Lew's PC and forgot to logout. Then LewTenAnt was in a hurry and wasn't paying attention at the names and sent the message... **Filtered** happens. Stop turning this into a witch hunt.

Not a witch hunt. Sorry I have no reason to just believe lewtenant. He says it was an honest mistake. But maybe he's just a multi. Why should we just take his word for it? Don't be so dense. If this was someone not in your alliance you would question it too.

Well I take his side because I know him and his son. Two different p;ayers, 2 dif accounts, 2 dif play styles. Nothing related, except the fact that they are father and son and living in same place. So yeah. I vouch for them...

I wouldn't be so sure as to take their side, if I wouldn't know what I am talking about. Trust me on this

And I would have done it for anyone else, alliance member or not, if I knew I was right.
I'm not talking just for the sake of talking, damn it. I take this stuff serious

Lord Katsumoto wrote:Not a witch hunt. Sorry I have no reason to just believe lewtenant. He says it was an honest mistake. But maybe he's just a multi. Why should we just take his word for it? Don't be so dense. If this was someone not in your alliance you would question it too.

slightly off topic but by your logic you are basically saying that jt and his "daughter" were almost certainly a multi... same situation, yet you would have fiercely defended him and perhaps rightly so.
the simple fact is, we have to take people's words for it due to the fact that it is impossible to prove otherwise.

as for tziki, he's just trying to find an advantage because he's bitten off more than he can chew. if they weren't at war then this probably wouldn't have been mentioned.

Commander Vimes wrote:

Lord Katsumoto wrote:Not a witch hunt. Sorry I have no reason to just believe lewtenant. He says it was an honest mistake. But maybe he's just a multi. Why should we just take his word for it? Don't be so dense. If this was someone not in your alliance you would question it too.

slightly off topic but by your logic you are basically saying that jt and his "daughter" were almost certainly a multi... same situation, yet you would have fiercely defended him and perhaps rightly so.
the simple fact is, we have to take people's words for it due to the fact that it is impossible to prove otherwise.

as for tziki, he's just trying to find an advantage because he's bitten off more than he can chew. if they weren't at war then this probably wouldn't have been mentioned.

maybe katsumoto heard JT and his daughter over skype like I have..

that isn't what is in question here, yes jt has a daughter doesn't mean she ever used the account
same goes for lew and his son, they both exist and both own an account. it's one person's word against another. the thing in question is who is using the account, not the validity of people existing.
there are many others who play and another family member also plays, the only way around it would be to limit one account to an ip and that just wouldn't work.

Commander Vimes wrote:

Lord Katsumoto wrote:Not a witch hunt. Sorry I have no reason to just believe lewtenant. He says it was an honest mistake. But maybe he's just a multi. Why should we just take his word for it? Don't be so dense. If this was someone not in your alliance you would question it too.

slightly off topic but by your logic you are basically saying that jt and his "daughter" were almost certainly a multi... same situation, yet you would have fiercely defended him and perhaps rightly so.
the simple fact is, we have to take people's words for it due to the fact that it is impossible to prove otherwise.

as for tziki, he's just trying to find an advantage because he's bitten off more than he can chew. if they weren't at war then this probably wouldn't have been mentioned.

I didn't say anything about two people having an IP exception. In this case Lew was playing another account. If JT sent someone a message from his daughter's account the same would apply to him. Who knows how long he played before he noticed.

People still care bout multis these days Lol!

*Frowns* Just one question.
Since an IP-restriction (1 original account per IP, with possible exceptions) is in place, how does admin ensure this IP-exception? In the past he sometimes had people come online to chat together at the same time (while circumventable, it's more tricky then 'just talking').

Also an question directly to LewTenAnt: what's the timeframe between your son's logging in and leaving the PC/inactivity on the account and your sending of a message... Those with some knowledge of the game mechanics should understand why I'm asking this...
-Ben

Only minutes as I was playing the game on my account and chatting on skype, my lad wanted to do a trade, but I had already typed out some of the message to Tziki so just minimised my screen. he opened a new window to do his trade then I never really looked that he had just minimised his window. I continued to chat then realised I needed to go so quickly reopened my window finished the message off and hit send, but as his account was open, it auto sent by his account. Quite a simple mistake but caused a lot of trouble.

Commander Vimes wrote:

Lord Katsumoto wrote:Not a witch hunt. Sorry I have no reason to just believe lewtenant. He says it was an honest mistake. But maybe he's just a multi. Why should we just take his word for it? Don't be so dense. If this was someone not in your alliance you would question it too.

slightly off topic but by your logic you are basically saying that jt and his "daughter" were almost certainly a multi... same situation, yet you would have fiercely defended him and perhaps rightly so.
the simple fact is, we have to take people's words for it due to the fact that it is impossible to prove otherwise.

as for tziki, he's just trying to find an advantage because he's bitten off more than he can chew. if they weren't at war then this probably wouldn't have been mentioned.

Given that Lew did basically nothing during that war, anda s far as im concerned i completely destroyed anything and everything your guys did. so no, if anything YOU bit off more than you can chew.

I reported this, because regardless of ingame diplomacy, i was the one to hear of it and found it suspiscious. Perhaps if it were someone more active it would be advantageous to push the issue, but given my previous statement its obvious that is not my intent.



@ Lew, perhaps a lesson to be learned then. That by being neglectful ad in a hurry you may open up questions and suspicions. Nothing personal, i sent the same message to someone else first to ask their thoughts, they drew the same conclusion so i reported it.

~Tziki~ wrote:

Commander Vimes wrote:

Lord Katsumoto wrote:Not a witch hunt. Sorry I have no reason to just believe lewtenant. He says it was an honest mistake. But maybe he's just a multi. Why should we just take his word for it? Don't be so dense. If this was someone not in your alliance you would question it too.

slightly off topic but by your logic you are basically saying that jt and his "daughter" were almost certainly a multi... same situation, yet you would have fiercely defended him and perhaps rightly so.
the simple fact is, we have to take people's words for it due to the fact that it is impossible to prove otherwise.

as for tziki, he's just trying to find an advantage because he's bitten off more than he can chew. if they weren't at war then this probably wouldn't have been mentioned.

Given that Lew did basically nothing during that war, anda s far as im concerned i completely destroyed anything and everything your guys did. so no, if anything YOU bit off more than you can chew.

I reported this, because regardless of ingame diplomacy, i was the one to hear of it and found it suspiscious. Perhaps if it were someone more active it would be advantageous to push the issue, but given my previous statement its obvious that is not my intent.



@ Lew, perhaps a lesson to be learned then. That by being neglectful ad in a hurry you may open up questions and suspicions. Nothing personal, i sent the same message to someone else first to ask their thoughts, they drew the same conclusion so i reported it.

So, dragging this out for well over a month and **Filtered** like a 5 year old after it was explained 2 posts into the thread was the correct course of action?

You did this to troll the poor guy and to fight on yet another front in the ever stupidity battle.

Please do us a favor, next time things are explained by the persons involved, STHU!