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Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:10 pm
by Clockwork
Lol fluxy feel that burn :smt046

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:18 am
by Antz
Juliette wrote:Just because it was a funny convo.. :D [spoiler]
Denis Oman: in the ark of truth
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: lol
Denis Oman: In the end you see the figtht between ORI queen and :)
Denis Oman: you guys girls know **Filtered**
Denis Oman: :P
Denis Oman: if she was locked with battle with anubis
Denis Oman: how could she fith Adria ;)
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: Morgan le Fay.
Denis Oman: fight
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: Is.
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: Not.
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: Oma Desala.
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: -_-
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: Noob.
Denis Oman: oh it was morgan
Denis Oman: DAMN IT!
Denis Oman: **Filtered**
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: lol ;)
Denis Oman: (rofl)
Caprila: you fail iflux :P
Caprila: cannot outgeek us
(Juliette - GateWars) Cersei Lannister: (chuckle)
[/spoiler]

oh how I wish I were there for that. :smt089

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:50 am
by IFLuX
I fell the love :smt060

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:30 am
by SVaRuN
I still have no idea about moronic thinking of the ascended council or whatever they are.


Aka not deascending Anubs, because they see it as a punsihment for Oma and at the same time people in the lower plains die left and right.


I always wanted them to make the show SG: Ascension explaining that plain, the ORI, the Ancients, how it functions and stuff.

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:00 am
by Slim87R
Who said anything about Ganos Lal ascending Adria? You dont absolutely need another ancient to ascend somebody. It is possible to ascend all by yourself. Rodney even came close to ascending in Atlantis.

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:59 pm
by Antz
Slim87R wrote:Who said anything about Ganos Lal ascending Adria? You dont absolutely need another ancient to ascend somebody. It is possible to ascend all by yourself. Rodney even came close to ascending in Atlantis.
granted, that was the case for the original ancients, it's certainly possible to ascend on your own, though you'd need to be physically able to do so.

Adria was created for exactly that purpose, to be more advanced than the priors, who themselves were further along the road to ascension than the plain old humans/jaffa and be able to ascend if/when necessary

Oma merely helped Anubis/Shifu/Daniel/Abydonians/Daniel and countless others ascend who hadn't reached a level of evolution that would allow them to do so naturally.

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:59 pm
by Slim87R
Antz wrote:
Slim87R wrote:Who said anything about Ganos Lal ascending Adria? You dont absolutely need another ancient to ascend somebody. It is possible to ascend all by yourself. Rodney even came close to ascending in Atlantis.
granted, that was the case for the original ancients, it's certainly possible to ascend on your own, though you'd need to be physically able to do so.

Adria was created for exactly that purpose, to be more advanced than the priors, who themselves were further along the road to ascension than the plain old humans/jaffa and be able to ascend if/when necessary

Oma merely helped Anubis/Shifu/Daniel/Abydonians/Daniel and countless others ascend who hadn't reached a level of evolution that would allow them to do so naturally.
This brings up a question. If you were to ascend with no help from the anceints, would you still have to follow the rules of the others? You did so on your own, so you should be able to do whatever based on your own rules.

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:12 pm
by Antz
Slim87R wrote:
Antz wrote:
Slim87R wrote:Who said anything about Ganos Lal ascending Adria? You dont absolutely need another ancient to ascend somebody. It is possible to ascend all by yourself. Rodney even came close to ascending in Atlantis.
granted, that was the case for the original ancients, it's certainly possible to ascend on your own, though you'd need to be physically able to do so.

Adria was created for exactly that purpose, to be more advanced than the priors, who themselves were further along the road to ascension than the plain old humans/jaffa and be able to ascend if/when necessary

Oma merely helped Anubis/Shifu/Daniel/Abydonians/Daniel and countless others ascend who hadn't reached a level of evolution that would allow them to do so naturally.
This brings up a question. If you were to ascend with no help from the anceints, would you still have to follow the rules of the others? You did so on your own, so you should be able to do whatever based on your own rules.
no, it doesn't, Oma does say in the eternal café that not all of the 'others' are ancients, presumably, the others consist of ancients and other species who developed the ability to ascend,

It's likely to be a rule that is upheld by the community as a whole because of the possible effects an ascended being would have should they interfere with the lower realm (think Ori and even Anubis)

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:43 pm
by SVaRuN
just by ancients. ORI dont give a flying ....


Ancients decided to have those strange rules

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:26 pm
by Slim87R
SVaRuN wrote:just by ancients. ORI dont give a flying ....


Ancients decided to have those strange rules
You make an excellent point. The Ori interfere with the lower planes heavily. I just thought I remembered watching an episode where they referenced having to follow the rules because you were helped to ascend as opposed to doing it yourself naturally. Adria was highly evolved so she would have the ability to do this. Also she couldnt care less about the rules of the others even though she ascended in the Milky Way galaxy. It stands to reason that this would apply to anyone ascending on their own.

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:57 pm
by SVaRuN
Also important to note is that Ori draw their power from their followers, from their faith, they have to be involved in the lower plains or they are contradicting their own beliefs

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:07 am
by Sniperwax
Ori are still very powerful ascended beings even without the faith tap they just aren't able to 1 click mass the Milky Way ascended beings. Morgan would have received a serious beat down if not for the ark. While Adria and Morgan are technically an even match without faith tap Morgan is more or less THE UNKNOWN and Adria power leveled to LIVING GOD +2 :D

And as for Anubis you have to remember dying is not a requirement of ascending it's kind of like a snake shedding skin. Those who do not ascend technically die or fade away forever. The circumstances leading up to shedding the skin are irrelevant only the act of doing so matter.

*Edit: Got my Omas and Morgans confused there too for a sec :D

Re: Does Anubis DIE

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:17 am
by Antz
It was my belief that the 'others' were avoiding interfering purely because it'd artificially advance other cultures, we've seen before though, people who have ascended have helped those who haven't (big honkin' space gun) and the results of that (devastation of the planet's civilisation)

Is it possible that the Ori would have been made aware of these civilisations should they reach a certain level of technology? hence the reason why they were not to interfere,

(my thinking here is that, should a civilisation rise up enough to actually challenge the Ori, they'd wipe it out (or convert it, though a culture that's advanced enough to actually challenge them technologically would know that they're not actual gods, no matter what they claim to be) hence the ancients were shielding the other galaxy's from the ori, but it's only possible to a certain point, no matter how much you're being protected, at some point you're going to make too much of a noise)

p.s. the above paragraph is merely conjecture,

I'll have to watch Series 9/10 & AoT again before I get too deep on the opinions I could generate from them - on a more in depth nature at least -