Penalties on main for ascended account put on vacation mode

[thunder]

explain why the main account would lose their advanced weps or tech?? the only one that could is the acended blessing.

well why wont any of you answer this question, all ive read is
i thinnk they should lose there advancements, TELL US WHY!!

[Chris M]

explain why the main account would lose their advanced weps or tech?? the only one that could is the acended blessing.

well why wont any of you answer this question, all ive read is
i thinnk they should lose there advancements, TELL US WHY!!

Ok, whats the point of ascension?
a) to gain access to ascension server
b) to rebuild with the bonuses of ascension (the ascended blessings)

why should someone keep the ascended blessing (bonus) if they're not using their ascended account. its easier to let the account go dormant on ascension, vac mode is a cheap way out of being attacked/deascended (when introduced).

why not lose the bonus, as long as the account is on vacation mode (cause if the ascended is away, you cant seek help from them...). i think its fair.

[thunder]

so basicaly you think so cause it sounds fair?? well lifes not fair, i got to the acended plain soley to get bonuses in main. and i dont think i should be forced to play on acention cause its boring to me

[Chris M]

so basicaly you think so cause it sounds fair?? well lifes not fair, i got to the acended plain soley to get bonuses in main. and i dont think i should be forced to play on acention cause its boring to me

im not saying you shuld be forced to play ascension to keep the bonus, what im saying is you shouldnt just put it on vac as thats a cheap way of hiding.

[thunder]

actually you are, if you dont play on acention and dont go on vac mode then you lose acention

i have no prob with losing the acended blessing when the acended acount goes on ppt, however logicaly the other %'s should stay

[Chris M]

actually you are, if you dont play on acention and dont go on vac mode then you lose acention

really since when?
and deascension isnt active yet, is it?

[thunder]

i thought it was understood that i was refering to when it is implemented, cause other than decention theres not much cause to go on vac mode in acention

[Lord_Core]

I'm sorry but to be sitting on vacation mode for 3 weeks is abuse. You are not on vacation mode, specialy if you log in on main. You are using it so that you cant be attacked on the ascention server because there is no PPT's.

I like the no bonus to your shell account. Why because your spiritual body isnt protecting your realm. You are leaving your troops unwatched in a sense.

If you didnt want to play ascention server than you shouldnt have ascended.
ascended guns are tripple the cost for double the affectivness.

There are ways around being farmed on ascention.

[Radium]

Abuse or not vacation mode was created because people with real lives play these games. There are many reasons why someone could really be using the vacation mode. Say a family member had a terminal illness and they were having to take care of them?

Let's screw these people over just because someone else is abusing the system. And do not give me "How many people does that happen to" as a response. If it happened to one that is to many.

[thunder]

2 things

1) takeing a 2 month vacation in the summer or winter or whatever is easily done by some. also thers lent and other stuff like that

2)everyone who has said that this should be implemented has yet to provide a rational reason that when the acended being goes on vacation the knowledge/tech would somehow be lost. exluding the acendant blessing thing

[Nostradamus]

Abuse or not vacation mode was created because people with real lives play these games. There are many reasons why someone could really be using the vacation mode. Say a family member had a terminal illness and they were having to take care of them?

Let's screw these people over just because someone else is abusing the system. And do not give me "How many people does that happen to" as a response. If it happened to one that is to many.

Explain me please how could someone in this situation put ascended account on vacation and play main? If they have a problem in real life they don't play anything.

I think the best way would be a counter on main logins. If you have the ascended account on vacation mode you can't log in on your main account more then X times (or stay logged more then X minutes) .... this way if someone has put the vacation account on vacation and has loaned most of his stuff in main can access the account ..... but if someone is abusing the system and will login more then the allowed quota ... the ascended account will become active and it will not be possible to activate vacation mode for it for a certain period.

[Chris M]

if ascended is on vacation, so should main account.
they are both tied so to speak
dont wanna play ascension, either dont play it or dont ascend in the first place.
if you dont wanna play ascension and you have ascended, why do you care if the account is farmed or deascended.
besides, unless you make some pretty petty enemies who is gunna waste turns decasending a usless, empty account... with all the life force built up it woould takes ages anyways... a account that has nothing done to it would probly be as hard to decend as a built up one.
i wouldnt waste turns deascending a unused account, turns are too valuable with no SS/market up there (yet)

[Wintermute]

I think this is a really good idea. If you go into vacation on ascension your main account goes into vacation for the same period, and likewise if you go into vacation in main it put the ascended account in vacation.

I would even further suggest that attacks on the ascended account will damage the main account. I mean it makes sense that your physical ascended realm somehow be tied to your main physical realm as they are bothe physical.

The ascension bonuses ought to come at a price and I think having increased ties between the two accounts makes sense.

[MackTheKnife]

Says all the people who've already complained that ascended accounts are too powerfull?

My view of ascended and main's relationship is:

You start off your account, you are the leader, you run the place. You grow your followers and naq and stuff and then ascend.

Your world then falls into a state of anarchy (Or an Goauld either forcibly or with the worship of their followers sacrifices their previous world and people, or a Replicator uses lots of RepliBlocks to achieve their "Soul Energy") and most of the people destroy itself when the leader leaves (ascends) and destroys almost everything on the planet. The emotional and spirtual release

The scattered survivors scrape through their lives, unable to go back to their current glory.

Then the "Prior" is born\replicated\stuck in a clone or whatever.

He\She then becomes the leader, and (like Priors in SG1) are imbued with the Knowledge of the Ascended Being, either with genetic coding, technology or a combination of this or other things.

That knowledge enables them to build better weapons, helps their forces "balance" better than their previous levels (ascended tech) and then the "Prior" follows the previous leaders steps and hopefully ascends. Maybe they kill each other again, maybe they plan for it and keep some people alive deep below the ground, with all their knowledge and ideas etc.

etc etc

Then a Prophet is born. He is imbued with more advanced knowledge, able to more effectively improve their current civilisation once it is rebuilt.

etc etc

Then a Messiah is born.

etc.

The practical effect, is that I belive the 2 servers should never be linked much more than the act of ascension, and perhaps losing some of the ascended blessing's effectiveness if you are descended in ascension.

I don't belive the 2 accounts should directly effect each other apart from these distinct possibilities\events, and since people don't always have time to play 2 servers, should be allowed the vacation in Main, or Ascension, or both and have no penalties.

[Kirklandkie]

i play both main and ascended server. the only thing is that i do find ascention very very boring. i do not go on vacation ppt there but i also believe that given you did find it where you only wanted to play main you should be able to go on vacation mode without any damages to main.

some people ascended only for the main bonus in order to furthur their conquest in main.

i say keep it as is with the exception of a manual desention, made by your choice



-kirk