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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:23 pm
by Tojo
well as long as it doesnt boot you back down to Asgard or one of the 4 starting races ill be happy enough.

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:13 pm
by pijanc
so what u r saying is that it can damage your acc. but u want to remain Ancient, System Lord, etc.. I think that is acceptable.

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:24 pm
by MGZ
pijanc wrote:so what u r saying is that it can damage your acc. but u want to remain Ancient, System Lord, etc.. I think that is acceptable.


that may be what some people want, but come on! we were told that ascention carried HIGH RISKS. where is the risk of ascention if your main account isn't affected by the loss of the ascended one? some people don't even care about their ascension accounts, all they want is the bonus is main. I think it would be great if losing your AS account would mean losing the bonus on main. it would give people an incentive to stay active on the AS.

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:44 pm
by god
MGZ wrote:
pijanc wrote:so what u r saying is that it can damage your acc. but u want to remain Ancient, System Lord, etc.. I think that is acceptable.


that may be what some people want, but come on! we were told that ascention carried HIGH RISKS. where is the risk of ascention if your main account isn't affected by the loss of the ascended one? some people don't even care about their ascension accounts, all they want is the bonus is main. I think it would be great if losing your AS account would mean losing the bonus on main. it would give people an incentive to stay active on the AS.


making the ascension game not absolutly boring would help too... I'd prefer to just stay on vacation and let the people that want to0 play it play it.

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:25 am
by pijanc
MGZ wrote:
pijanc wrote:so what u r saying is that it can damage your acc. but u want to remain Ancient, System Lord, etc.. I think that is acceptable.


that may be what some people want, but come on! we were told that ascention carried HIGH RISKS. where is the risk of ascention if your main account isn't affected by the loss of the ascended one? some people don't even care about their ascension accounts, all they want is the bonus is main. I think it would be great if losing your AS account would mean losing the bonus on main. it would give people an incentive to stay active on the AS.


look i said that it can whipe my acc. entirely, bonuses and everything, except the name of the race. :twisted:

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:56 am
by Hensenshi
Favre wrote:The only problem with ascention surver is that no matter what someone does this server is completely based on time. So someone who has been playing the entire time and is a living god will always be more powerful then any newer living gods giving them the ability to de-ascend someone.


I'm still an Incarnate and I've got one of the largest realms in the game and I'm ranked 8th. :?

I also think there should be more damage than just removal of their bonuses.

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:24 pm
by Saber
I bet you have been playing for a long time I was not saying that only living gods are powerful just that most are.

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:58 pm
by Hensenshi
Favre wrote:I bet you have been playing for a long time I was not saying that only living gods are powerful just that most are.


I've been playing for a while. (4th ID on the list.)

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:36 pm
by Reality
Descension should remove all bonuses to the account, and half of all its resources and stats. One reascension, however, would cost double, but recover all the bonuses (though not the resources and the stats).

Hmm. I like it. :P

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:54 am
by Grand Admiral Martin
this happens i see mass vaction mode across the ascended server, and i for one will be doing that, i am not spending another 20weeks plus to ascend fully again, in the show no one ancient could decend another dont see how we can do it in game.

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:04 pm
by ZS Agent281
Reality wrote:Descension should remove all bonuses to the account, and half of all its resources and stats. One reascension, however, would cost double, but recover all the bonuses (though not the resources and the stats).

Hmm. I like it. :P


Badass... :twisted:

*Edit*

What if you could also raise your stats higher then they were before? For instance each time you are decended you can raise your percentage to 35% with the 7th ascension. However, if you were decended once you could only go up to 35%, if you are descended twice you can go to 40%. Three times 45%, 4 times 50% and from there it is permanent 1% increases.

The big players could abuse it and get to 100%, but the losses would be stupendous and possibly not even worth it. Still I think it would be something cool to toss around.

If it was implemented could you choose your own title for your tenth ascension?

Needs work, but it would be cool...

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:30 pm
by Hensenshi
ZS Agent281 ~Prophet~ wrote:What if you could also raise your stats higher then they were before? For instance each time you are decended you can raise your percentage to 35% with the 7th ascension. However, if you were decended once you could only go up to 35%, if you are descended twice you can go to 40%. Three times 45%, 4 times 50% and from there it is permanent 1% increases.

The big players could abuse it and get to 100%, but the losses would be stupendous and possibly not even worth it. Still I think it would be something cool to toss around.

If it was implemented could you choose your own title for your tenth ascension?

Needs work, but it would be cool...


Reality wrote:Descension should remove all bonuses to the account, and half of all its resources and stats. One reascension, however, would cost double, but recover all the bonuses (though not the resources and the stats).

Hmm. I like it. :P


I'm really liking these two ideas here. Except for instead of half resources, make it like an ascension. You lose all weapons, all untrainable soldiers, all UP, all spy levels, and the only thing you keep is lifers and any untrainable units are untrained. You are of course given a PPT.

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:03 pm
by Saber
doing this will cause alot of active people who haven't been around for a while to go on vac mod or sell their accounts. Since who wants to waste all their time again ascending expectially if they lose everything they have worked over a year for in my opinion it will just make people angry very angry. Most likely they will quit.

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:29 pm
by Grand Admiral Martin
Favre wrote:doing this will cause alot of active people who haven't been around for a while to go on vac mod or sell their accounts. Since who wants to waste all their time again ascending expectially if they lose everything they have worked over a year for in my opinion it will just make people angry very angry. Most likely they will quit.


so true, no one can honestly say they would keep playing if they had an army 50mil wiped away and all stats put to 0 and if you say thats the fun of it then you need your head checked. decension should not be brought in

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:59 pm
by ZS Agent281
Emperor Martin wrote:
Favre wrote:doing this will cause alot of active people who haven't been around for a while to go on vac mod or sell their accounts. Since who wants to waste all their time again ascending expectially if they lose everything they have worked over a year for in my opinion it will just make people angry very angry. Most likely they will quit.


so true, no one can honestly say they would keep playing if they had an army 50mil wiped away and all stats put to 0 and if you say thats the fun of it then you need your head checked. decension should not be brought in


How about this then-

Don't ascend!!

There were risks and there has always been talk of descention to the best of my knowledge. Everyone should know that there are risks to this game. Besides every update some one threatens to quit, hell, even I have.

If you are afraid to lose everything too bad. Put it on perma vacation, but I want some form of excitement on ascension. Right now there is nothing to do on that server.

With my addon to the descention protocol you get a bonus if you choose to stay on and rebuild your account, not to mention the fact that you can ascend once and get 5% more then you had before so it would be like having a double ascension with 2.5x the bonus after the LG +1 bonus.

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My Thoughts on Descention


You should also get a notice of the attacks of descention on your account. It could be a highly variable process with a 1% chance of happening and it may only be done once a day and would cost one hundred turns. This way if you had 0 turns you could do a decention attempt once every 2 days approximately.

The percentage should also be increased or decreased based on your stats compared to the other persons. If your stats are 4x someone elses it shouldn't be fair that they would be able to descend you easily. There should be also be a heavy rank modifier that would stop whomever is rank one from descending a rank 600 person, for instance.

It should take a day to get the results of the descention for the person who initated it. The person that is decended should know right away. This way you could eliminate everyone who is not around any more. Anyone who doesn't log in at least once a day isn't very active anyways. If you are gone for long periods of time then put your ascension account on vacation just incase.

The time would allow for most people to ready their accounts and find a friend on PPT, transfer their stuff, and be descended. This would allow them a bit of leway and not be so harsh that everyone could be decended and lose everything immediately.

What do you think? Questions, comments, blatant insults against my moral fiber or mental capactiy?