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I have found at least one logical reason for the log out thing after three

hours. I had left my account logged in at my friends house who happens

to live out of state. Who knows how long it could have taken him to check

his computer for the gate wars account sitting logged in. It logged me out

after just three hours and I was able to play at my own house again.


Hey it at least helped me but I dont think that was the specific reason it was put in place

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Forum wrote:yup. you know WHY I have to add extra measures to security.....

"it is my own computer that AUTO refreshes, so how can it be cheating"....
well... computers facilitate automation. automation is not allowed here. so using your tool to do what it is capable of it against the rules.

"my hammer is built to hit. so how can hitting someone on the head with a hammer be illegal? it was made to hit..."

In short -if a computer can auto logon, it can autobank. auto UP increase. auto anything.

this argument is EXACTLY why this cannot go on infintely....

sorry vis - to play you have to be there. to cheat, you also have to be there
but if you're there anywya, no need to cheat

god wrote:

Visentinel wrote:i come back every few hours and i find myself having to reloggin when previously i could use my auto refresh tab to stay logged in

so you admit to cheating...

RULES wrote:2) No automated processes, macros, scripts or other 'non human being' run account activity is allowed.

and furthermore... it isn't a shift+tab, it is just a tab... I just checked...

Forum that doesn't make sense, seriously, one thing changes a last login value locally on the users pc which keeps the latest login valid and has no effect on the users account, and your examples change values on the SGW server that have to do with account stats that facilitates cheating.

If your going to make comparisons, then make the comparisons actually have something to do with one another.

Vis - yet to hear anyone mention a valid reason for the login expiration.

Give a valid reason why someone should need to be logged in for over 3 hours, especially when it only takes a few seconds to log back in (which will then last another 3 hours).

Anything that hampers those who would cheat is a plus, and this does. There were ways to stay logged in (as you yourself know) and could then auto-bank (as people have testified).

What's the drawback to this update? You have to spend 3 seconds to log in if you've been logged into your account for over 3 hours.


J.G.G.

takes longer than 3 seconds actually, far longer. also autobanking is not an issue again due to the random header size. iv never autobanked, but i have used auto refreshing, wich is not a part of the game in the end wich has no effect on my account so it aint cheating, auto banking is cheating and i never cheated ever.

Also, on Forums post.

Forum Said:

so using your tool to do what it is capable of it against the rules.

Does this also mean that my advantage of having a computer with pretty much the world best parts (I have allot of $ to burn on pc parts) gives me a cheaters style advantage by allowing me to play SGW faster than others ?? Are you going to be finding ways to penalise me for this to Forum ? like yeah, you may aswell, it would go pretty well in the same category of Login Session Limits Nicely.

visentinel wrote:takes longer than 3 seconds actually, far longer. also autobanking is not an issue again due to the random header size. iv never autobanked, but i have used auto refreshing, wich is not a part of the game in the end wich has no effect on my account so it aint cheating, auto banking is cheating and i never cheated ever.

Reality wrote:Autoclickers no longer work, because of the header, but there are other ways.

EDIT: sorry, in two minutes, I was able to find a way to bypass the fact that the header changes size. Hahaha. Autoclickers can still be used, if you know how. I'll speak to admin about it, though. You don't have to worry about a thing ^_^

As has been said, there are ways arround the random header size.

I never accused you of using auto-banking, but you have auto-refreshed your way to avoid logging out. You must see that to auto bank, the cheater must be logged in and to cheat 'effectively,' stay logged in for a long time. I think 3 hours is a very generous amount of time to allow people to stay logged on.

And you say it takes longer than 3 seconds to log on. By how much? I still don't think it could be a substantial amount of time.


J.G.G.

it takes me about 3 seconds, especially with firefox cuz it auto-inputs the email and password, just requiring the username and the code to be entered.

and, it does make sense to have the login expiration. vis its a VERY small measure to be concerned about, it honestly sounds like you've gotten lazy (using auto-refresh to stay logged in so you dont have to input your login info?).

insanity5723 wrote:and, it does make sense to have the login expiration. vis its a VERY small measure to be concerned about, it honestly sounds like you've gotten lazy (using auto-refresh to stay logged in so you dont have to input your login info?).

While massing, 3 seconds is enough time for them to repair and retrain troops. Having to start all over again on someone's defense isn't exactly fun.

So Forum, you're telling me that using my browser is cheating? I'm not sure I understand your point. I'm using my browser to stay loged in because it makes it easier when someone asks me to do something, or I do a trade. It means I don't have to log in for every tranaction. If you're saying that's cheating, I start to wonder about the turn this game has taken. I've been using a refersher browser since day 4. Next you're going to tell me that using tabs to farm is cheating because I can hit multiple people at one time.

he's not saying its cheating, hes saying its an enabler to cheat. since autobanking would require people to stay logged in all night. its just a small thing to pay to help stop the cheating.

and if you're massing someone, and theyre online. you already have to wait 14 seconds to attack them again, its very unlikely massing will be affected by this.

about the three second log in thing... after the three hour time limit it wouldn't let me log in until i restarted my

computer. Which means if I was doing something important I probably would have been screwed.

Hensenshi wrote:

insanity5723 wrote:and, it does make sense to have the login expiration. vis its a VERY small measure to be concerned about, it honestly sounds like you've gotten lazy (using auto-refresh to stay logged in so you dont have to input your login info?).

While massing, 3 seconds is enough time for them to repair and retrain troops. Having to start all over again on someone's defense isn't exactly fun.

If they're smart, they'll be on critical

point is... it's in the rules, using an automated process is against the rules.

no point in arguing it.

and if it takes you more than 3 seconds to login, maybe you should be spending your money on typing lessons instead of the best computer equipment.

Be nice to know who you are in-game God...

*ac = AutoComplete

IE Engine powered browser = v ( ac to visentinel ) = v ( ac to my email ) - type my password = type code = press login

takes longer than 3 seconds, even with fast typing.

Firefox may be faster since it auto inputs the email and password, but thats just a problem only because Forum has done something that Inadvertently Penalises IE based Users, and i wont switch to that pathetic excuse for a browser just to login faster coz Forum thinks its a good idea to put a session limit.

typeing everything in and I use IE by the way took me 10 sec flat not that long.

Visentinel wrote:Be nice to know who you are in-game God...

*ac = AutoComplete

IE Engine powered browser = v ( ac to visentinel ) = v ( ac to my email ) - type my password = type code = press login

takes longer than 3 seconds, even with fast typing.

Firefox may be faster since it auto inputs the email and password, but thats just a problem only because Forum has done something that Inadvertently Penalises IE based Users, and i wont switch to that pathetic excuse for a browser just to login faster coz Forum thinks its a good idea to put a session limit.

If you dont like typing in your logins, use RoboForm , link underneath, saves your account passwords e.t.c e.t.c so when you click login to sgw it takes you to the site enters all your details and logs in, with the cdowe you have to press go and fill (nto log in) so it fills your details that youd normally type and then you cant type in the code and press login, only takes a few secs, if you want to save mroe than 10 pass words of this peice of software dont go and buy robo form pro like it tells you just create new profiles add to them = free time saver for mozilla and IE users.

Also for another time saving tip, for both mozilla and IE , the email and the password are the only distinct and unique things on your login so forumn has nicely made it so that infact you dont need to type in your whole username only the first letter (V) for you.
Also my IE stores emails so all you need to type knowing this is

V , tab , type first letter of email i.e v ,press down till you hit your email , then tab to passord enter it, tab to code enter it tab enter.

RoboForm- a must freeware for people who complain about logging in.

In no way am i advertising robo form i encouragee you to pay the delevopers nothign ... better that way