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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:35 pm
by Mato
well maybe planets should have hidden distress beacon and it should bebroadcasting for atleast one day. if you dont notice that your planet is missing you loose it. otherwise you could find out who is behind that that trade.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:55 pm
by thorslittleworld
What im trying to say yes its possible that a multi can be use, at the same time it might just be someone who uses main to trade with
ie trading q resources to work on your main account or visa versa,, I have an officer who does exactly that,, not interested in main because it goes on and on where Q lasts for 3 months and each wave being different
so in this instance im just saying that yes it could be a multi, yet could easily be a half dead account used for trading,, let admin take it from here
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:07 am
by BenjaminMS
I agree... but one note... people say that maybe people coordinate together...
I doubt that, at the moment a player steals a planet and would send a PM to the others, which would cost 10-30 seconds (which other do you think the others could know?), the former owner is already searching. Looks almost impossible to me that the others come in time to steal the planet to continue the chain... I think there is minimal 1 person involved who is multiple logged in...
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:35 am
by thorslittleworld
Well ok im about to get hit over the head with a very large stick here if its taken wrong so Ill try and make it clear
someone takes my sons planet,, for what ever reason,, he dont have much in the way of fleet power and wont have due to ascnedings plan
when he loses a planet, i take it back and he then takes it off me, because it then ends up with 0 defense
we do work together,, a laptop and a pc,, he tells me,, i look on the logs as he is my officer,, i see who did it and he tells me what planet it was and now is
i take the planet and my son then takes the planet back via me
no multi's no cheating and yes a co-ordinated planet attack
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:56 am
by BenjaminMS
I won't hit you with a stick... I use words to make someone turn around... Is that better?
Imagine that your son, 5 seconds after the attack, notices it.
Looking for planet name and player name and telling you - +- 10 seconds
Looking up yourself the player - 15 to 20 seconds
(Spy log for looking at defenses maybe already put on: 30 seconds)
Attacking: 30 seconds
Telling your son: 5 seconds
Your son, who has the planet attack page ready, attacks: 20 seconds
Grand total: 1 minute 20 to 1 minute 55
... Is possible for 2.. but those 4 need to sit within 5 meters of each other then, and have REALLY fast computers if they want to pull it off within 3 minutes, not to say 2!
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:15 am
by Lord Smaug
Actually asking a friend making an account(his only one)just to take someones planet isn't illegal... and that's the problem.

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:07 am
by Wolfe
i also have been a victim of defensive rocks first massed my planet then stole it, and seeing as i had a high enough covert there is no way he could see it unless he was using his other account or had a friend do it for him, also another name to check out would be disability
http://stargatewars.com/stats.php?id=41439 who has hit me 3 times, in my personal opinion this is the work of those planet dealer ships, also another intresting thing is that both of these accounts have nearly the same up , one is at 4400 the other at 4573..... just alil odd in my book..
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:46 pm
by amadkiwi
Maybe someone just stole the planet, and someone just happened to see them with a planet and take it off them. Its happened to me. Someone stole my brand new planet within minutes of me taking it off someone else, and when I check that person out, someone has already taken the planet. Its a problem, since there is a limit to the amount of planets. There should be an infinite amount of them, its not like there is a limited number of planets out there. There are zillions, not just the 1000 or so that are available ingame.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:10 pm
by defensive rocks
BenjaminMS wrote:I won't hit you with a stick... I use words to make someone turn around... Is that better?

Imagine that your son, 5 seconds after the attack, notices it.
Looking for planet name and player name and telling you - +- 10 seconds
Looking up yourself the player - 15 to 20 seconds
(Spy log for looking at defenses maybe already put on: 30 seconds)
Attacking: 30 seconds
Telling your son: 5 seconds
Your son, who has the planet attack page ready, attacks: 20 seconds
Grand total: 1 minute 20 to 1 minute 55
... Is possible for 2.. but those 4 need to sit within 5 meters of each other then, and have REALLY fast computers if they want to pull it off within 3 minutes, not to say 2!
no i think whoever said 2 seconds is exaggerating quite a bit, it takes about 1-10 minutes if my client is online and well a couple off hours if not and also they sometimes get stolen. Our story is a bunch of friends and i decided to make a business from selling naq or turns to people a while back we would trade our turns and uu for market naq and our client would pay us. It is a easy way to have some sort of a cash flow because im not that much of a gamer. we could help you guys steal planets also if you want to.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:57 pm
by SC
I also sell stolen planets and through co-ordination using MSN I CAN have them taken within 10 seconds. Heres how:
1.) When both ready, client looks up my username and is ready to attack
2.) I take planet and instandly let them know through MSN
3.) Client takes planet within seconds
Simple, effective and works everytime. 10 Seconds is all it takes. (Why would you need to look at the attack logs??? Just prepare beforehand). All it takes is a little co-ordination. The reason I do this? As was mentioned above I get bored of the main server and sell planets to get resources in the Quantum server.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:21 pm
by Wolfe
but this still can be consider using something as a dummy account to gain an unfair advantage which in turn is still considerd against the rules, and personally i think it is just low to use a planet to get cross game resources, ruining one persons gaming expierience so u can profit in another, selfish, rude and pisses people off.... simple as that...
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:40 pm
by #?#
Wolfe wrote:but this still can be consider using something as a dummy account to gain an unfair advantage which in turn is still considerd against the rules, and personally i think it is just low to use a planet to get cross game resources, ruining one persons gaming expierience so u can profit in another, selfish, rude and pisses people off.... simple as that...
I don't believe such teamwork is considered as against the rules, against the rules would be if he'd be controlling all the accounts, but has he said there's other people than him operation the accounts that cooperate..
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:10 pm
by Radium
Emma Thurman wrote:Wolfe wrote:but this still can be consider using something as a dummy account to gain an unfair advantage which in turn is still considerd against the rules, and personally i think it is just low to use a planet to get cross game resources, ruining one persons gaming expierience so u can profit in another, selfish, rude and pisses people off.... simple as that...
I don't believe such teamwork is considered as against the rules, against the rules would be if he'd be controlling all the accounts, but has he said there's other people than him operation the accounts that cooperate..
Accounts that are used to only collect resources to be used elsewhere could possibly be against the rules, depending on how you read the rules.
But no worries, that rule is not enforced.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:14 pm
by #?#
Radium wrote:Emma Thurman wrote:Wolfe wrote:but this still can be consider using something as a dummy account to gain an unfair advantage which in turn is still considerd against the rules, and personally i think it is just low to use a planet to get cross game resources, ruining one persons gaming expierience so u can profit in another, selfish, rude and pisses people off.... simple as that...
I don't believe such teamwork is considered as against the rules, against the rules would be if he'd be controlling all the accounts, but has he said there's other people than him operation the accounts that cooperate..
Accounts that are used to only collect resources to be used elsewhere could possibly be against the rules, depending on how you read the rules.
But no worries, that rule is not enforced.
Well maybe those are not ONLY for that.. I mean, you could ask friends to help out and do the same thing without them being solely for collecting ressources.. If you see what I mean
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:11 pm
by PsychoticTendencies
I have 2 aacts that have ben stealing planets. ATM there is nothing we can do but moan and gripe. are they multis? who knows. banning them would only make the more genius players find new ways to keep doing it. My suggestion for admin is to have fleets deploy on defense. That way they can b damaged or even destroyed during normal attacks and raids. Until such action is taken just build 1 or 2 planet defenses into the billions. Then when one of these guys tries to take it they'll get spanked. and if ur planet def is 10 x greater than their fleets they lose all their fleets.