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Zeratul wrote:perhaps a sort of compromise? that one cant abandon planet until it is at least halfway, so 12 hour limit... not so long that it would certain that person will steal back first, but not so that it is too easy for people to ruin someones life by stealing and immedeatly abandoning...

NOPE... you all have whined and whined and whined and already gotten two "compromises" - these have helped whiners and hurt people who dabble in planet theft.

As always, anybody who dislikes the game rules for planets can get the h3ll out of the planet business altogether and still play their 'defensive trap' version of SGW. A bonus to this type of gameplay would be that "Game Suggestions" here on the forums would become a much less unpleasant place to visit without all the repetitive whining. Always the same threads, always the same completely avoidable "problems."

Here's an analogy - smoking is expensive, and it kills you, but you don't have to stick the things in your face if you don't want to, and therefore nobody should have to feel sorry for you when you whither and die from it.

Don't worry about being 'uncool' because you don't have planets like everybody else - I even give you my word that you can give up planets, and I won't personally tease you. Just please, for sweet, sweet, mercy, make this broken chipmunks record stop!

Most of the changes that get rejected are due to not helping the underlying issue of maintaining a form of balance to the game.

It is not right to have a means of attacking someone for something and being able to completely avoid being struck back upon.

The recent changes made are working for that goal, to keep a sense of balance and allowing everyone to strike back upon an enemy that has brought a fight with them.

You say that people are whining too much, well, I remember back when the game first started and many said the same thing about most of the suggestions that most of you never saw the game without.


As a Mod:
All I am saying is that if people wish to discuss changing things then there is nothing any of you can do to stop them.
Especially since I am the section head for modding here.

As long as the rules are followed they will be allowed to post whatever ideas they may have.

I ask that all of you that keep stating that people need to stop whining please stop doing so yourself.
You are whining about people whining.


Thanks,
Acronon

Acronon wrote:Most of the changes that get rejected are due to not helping the underlying issue of maintaining a form of balance to the game.

Yes, which is my motivation for posting here in the first place, in criticism of an idea which I think UNbalances the game. I see many planet-related threads, all aimed at taking the very 'balancing' aspect of planets away piece by piece.

Acronon wrote:You say that people are whining too much, well, I remember back when the game first started and many said the same thing about most of the suggestions that most of you never saw the game without.

lol ...is that when you had to walk uphill both ways to school? I'm no spring chicken here either - I've seen a lot of changes ingame, many I don't agree with, even if I never bothered saying so.

Basically, I see a high number of threads posted here by a relatively small # of more or less the same people. Admin seems more than willing to change gameplay using these suggestions, so I'm obliged to play devil's advocate and counter the ideas I don't agree with. I haven't posted any suggestions myself because in general, I think people should adapt to the game, and not the other way around. I agree with interface-type changes that improve the game for everybody, but I think admin needs more restraint when they change the game itself... this usually helps some people and hurts others, which is unfair. The least I can do is to counterpoint ideas I find unfair.

Acronon wrote:As a Mod:
All I am saying is that if people wish to discuss changing things then there is nothing any of you can do to stop them.
Especially since I am the section head for modding here.

Thanks,
Acronon

I didn't imply anywhere in my post that I could or even would prevent people from suggesting 'improvements' to the game. I was calling on their innate human decency to let this particular horse die in peace.

Final thought:
-Two people play a game...
-they like it enough (as it is) to each spend 50 real dollars of their own money to support it...
-one person plays to be a raider and steal uu from other players (within the rules of the game, of course), because there is a good supply of stealable uu, and much profit to be made...
-the other player decides to be a planet hunter and steal planets to trade for resources (also within the rules of the game), because there is a good supply of stealable planets, demand from other players to trade for them, and much profit to be made...
-having made their choices and committed time and resources in-game (on top of the real cash they paid in), both players had equal opportunities and made very different choices, but on even terms...
-all of a sudden, admin changes the rules of the game
-raider does very well now, especially with untouchable attack planets
-planet trader is out of business, and sorry, no warning of the changes, and no way to get a refund because the changes don't meet the expectations you had when you paid the money

Admin hasn't gone this far with the rules for planets YET, but they have started. I think that is unfair to the players and supporters of the game. So, planet whiners whine to change the game to suit them personally, and I am obligated to whine back, for admin to let me play 'SGW', and not 'SGW - Planet Whiner Edition (c)'

Yes, Acronon, the game is already different than before, but each time the gameplay is overhauled with no warning brings me closer to not supporting it any longer, and I'm saying this because I think I'm not the only one offended, not because I think my personal support means squat.

Well said.

All you have to do is go on ppt

What sucks at least for me is that stealing my planet back used up my one planet thing per day, right after i stole it back someone stole another one and I will have to wait 24 hours before I can take it back.