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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:13 pm
by Presario
Emperor Martin wrote:gooseman the first wrote:Exit wrote:Zeratul wrote:alliance planets should give a total bonus relative to member count + upgrades... and should be weakened by those not active... would both force activity and cause people to use larger alliances...
Why would you want people to use larger alliances?
more members= more people to upgrade
you know what? i like this idea so much im puttin it in my siggy
but more ppl means less bonus! unless everyone gets what planet says as i said 1kup gives everyone 1kup
I'd say this could work both ways, more people means less for everyone, but maybe that will encourage everyone to contribute - as the more people you have in the alliance, the more you will have to spend to get the full benefits. Plus this helps the small alliances, as they can get full benefit by spending less.
This might make the gap between the big fish and small fish a little smaller...
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:08 pm
by Privaten
I like this idea

Re: Alliance Planets
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:59 pm
by nemisis
Presario wrote:I am sure this will have been suggested before, but just incase, and to get other peoples opinions on it, I'll post anyways!
At the moment we have player planets that offer bonuses to the player who has it, like attack or UP.
My suggestion is that alliances can hold planets, and these planets in turn provide a bonus to the whole alliance...
As an example, when an alliance holds a 1,000 UPD planet. It adds 1,000 UPD to everyone in the alliance...
Or another way to do it is - when an alliance holds a planet that has 1,000 UPD, its divided between the alliance, eg a 1,000 UPD planet would provide 100 UPD extra to an alliance with 10 members...
Either way I recon there should be a screen that anyone in the alliance can access to add defenses or upgrade the planet and its size, therefore benefitting the whole alliance...
Plus I think this would add an extra level to alliance wars, I haven't really thought much about it, but say the 1st or 2nd in command of an alliance can try and conquer the planet, but the attack power is calculated from an alliances average fleet power, and only fleets that are currently not out exploring.
It was just an idea, and I'd like to hear some opinions on it, or ways to make it better...
Presario
gd idea:)
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:01 pm
by hfown
great idea!
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:15 am
by Rienna
I definitely like this idea, and a trial in quantum is also a great idea.
I like the idea of it split among the members.
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:29 am
by gooseman the first
actually it does open up a window for another idea, alliance fleets. but i suppose we should just stick to this one for the moment
Presario you whacked it square on the noggin

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:56 am
by gordash
i cant see how this would do anything but benefit the larger, richer alliances. alliances which have more, stronger players get better planets and attract more, stronger players. weak alliances which have smaller players lose their stronger people to alliance which can offer better benefits from the planets, and you end up with a monopoly in the game
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:39 am
by Zeratul
we think that this could work if the bonus was divided upon all members, but that having few powerful ones would make it more expensive, but the more members that contribute, the lower price for upgrades would be...
so an alliance with only 5 players in top 100, would have to pay much more than an alliance with 40 players, where most are about top 1000... and that it would cost more to have inactive players in alliance...
had it been say 1k up to each member, the bonus would greatly favor the biggest and strongest, but when bonus is divided by all members, and the total bonus goes up for each extra member, this would favor the not so strong alliances with many members...
for example if the bonus goes up by 5% for each new contributing member, but cost also goes down by 4% or so. and contributions should be only permitted after about 2 days, and bonuses will start the day after contribution first made... perhaps also that bonus has to be stopped 12hrs or so before being allowed to leave alliance. or if kicked before then, one would need 1 day wait before joining another...
this sort of bonus thing would favor both activity and loyalty to one alliance... it would prevent people that jump alliances all the time from leeching off alliances...
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:28 am
by gooseman the first
Zeratul wrote:we think that this could work if the bonus was divided upon all members, but that having few powerful ones would make it more expensive, but the more members that contribute, the lower price for upgrades would be...
so an alliance with only 5 players in top 100, would have to pay much more than an alliance with 40 players, where most are about top 1000... and that it would cost more to have inactive players in alliance...
that sounds like a good balance
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:03 am
by Presario
I do think it needs some thought, in terms of how much bonus you can gain/how many you can have etc - but i think its worth looking into.
How do we suggest the changes to Forum, do they log in and check now and again?
I appreciate your input Zeratul, you have come up with good balances...
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:34 am
by gooseman the first
Presario wrote:I do think it needs some thought, in terms of how much bonus you can gain/how many you can have etc - but i think its worth looking into.
How do we suggest the changes to Forum, do they log in and check now and again?
I appreciate your input Zeratul, you have come up with good balances...
i think theres a special mod forum where they put things
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:48 pm
by Zeratul
there isnt any such forum section we know about such, usually Forum either read them on his own, or one of the supermods advice him about them...
besides, we think this one needs more balancing, as the balances we suggested were simply pulled randomly out of the air, and to give basic idea...
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:29 pm
by Samil
Good idea - I like it
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:09 pm
by Heaven Seeker
Presario, long time no speak mate. How are things? I really like this idea!
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:48 pm
by Presario
Im not bad mate, Im a Living God now - just getting along slowly with the game...
Hows U?
I wish there was a way to bring this to Admin/Forums attention, I would like to hear his/her thoughts on it...
Or at least a game Mod's ideas...