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Posted: **Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:55 pm**

Raventitan wrote:I was scammed about a month back by lord toal or lord soren (same person)

Now in your first post it says that the lord soren guy doesnt scam his friends

I am gentiles friend, and have been since i met him about 6 months ago.

Since i was scammed a month back then gentile couldnt have been lord soren because im his friend and according to your log he doesnt scam friends.

Also mr jonathan oneill you have yet to give me any prove as to gentile being a scammer, we have argued on msn for 1 1/2 hour and yet you will not give me the "evidence" you have.

I dont like my friends being accused of scamming/multied.

ive been the with that argument but he wont prove

Posted: **Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:24 pm**

dude do some research before you just slap names up there and what not

lets see here... lets start with mailto:orici_10195@yahoo.com

Here we have a 4 time ascended account which was made a long time ago (hence the low id of 17758). are you telling me that this guy made this account LONG ago for the sole purpose of ascending 4 times then scamming people? sounds like alot of work if you ask me. his id is 1/2 of mine and i played since last october. how long has that account been around? this is just a rough guess but id say since may or june 2005.

now im not sayin this guy isnt a scammer. he very well could be. but what made you jump to the conclusion that these two scammers are one in the same? (Here)i see no evidence that they are the same.

next, we can move on to... mailto:ivanhoho13@hotmail.com

i believe this was a chaos scammer (Here) and moved on to be a main scammer (Here). again, what links him to this guy? again, i see no evidence that proposing that they are one guy.

there are a few others where the fact that they are all one guy is plausable but please, do your research before you just slap some names and ids up there.

here is an example of your haste and carelessness

Lord Dark ~ 4525
Lord Soren ~ 61139
Prison is Hell ~ 96709 ~ {I'm not positive it's a multi but it's Lord Soren's} officer}
Orici ~ 17758
CS Player ~ 56578
Lord ToAl ~ 46819
Carnage ~ 50596 ~ {Officer of Lord ToAl. Multi?}
marmaladearmadillo ~ 46819 ~ {Officer of Lord ToAl. Multi?
The Walrus ~ 38565 ~ {officer of "Marmal"}
Shambles ~ 42782 ~ {Officer of "Marmal"}
Gentile01 ~ 63228 ~ {I have every reason to believe that this is one of his mutlis}

correct me if im wrong, but how can 2 accounts have the same ids? they dont, because marmaladearmadillo's id is actually 38853

thats about it for me, again i would be very greatful to talk to you on MSN or to see some proof about gentile01

Posted: **Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:26 pm**

i stand by Gentile01 aswell i have know him for a while and have traded with him and he has never scammed me or any1 else i know

Posted: **Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:40 pm**

mailto:ivanhoho13@hotmail.com that is 1 of his email addies when he scammed me on chaos he gave me that as his email adyy for the acc he was ginving me

Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:07 am**

im confused at waht you mean by

Oh and one more thing Solitary your argument about his ID is invalid. Why? Because his number multi listed the one you are not contesting has a ID lower then mine I started on February 18th The game launched the 5th.... Does that mean that there is no way it could be his account?

and what about the other stuff i posted about?

Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:20 am**

LOL guys guys why bother with me? im only one guy

. and that gentile guy he is nice LOL but hes me LMAO i thought i told you jack hes not me. and im not him im only a idinaty theft person got cough once LOL thats a diffrent story..... i thought you were a smart man jack i guess i was wrong :'(.... o well i say band him and let me stay insted

Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:26 am**

i love being famous :$ but are all these me? isnt it posible i sold my accounts an bought another one? o well we will never know after tonight im done with this game for good if that makes you all happy :'(...
it aint my fault that their so easy to trick

Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:28 am**

Almost38 wrote:mailto:ivanhoho13@hotmail.com that is 1 of his email addies when he scammed me on chaos he gave me that as his email adyy for the acc he was ginving me

that doesnt solve the question as how they are the same person. the point im trying to make, is what proof do you have that all these names and ids are the same guy?

i dont really care about all of these ids and names i just want my friend taken off that list, as he doesnt diserve to be there. he is no scammer, he is no cheat or liar.

Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:48 am**

ok i am not gentile01 i am only 1 guy how can i be 2? idc, is it even posible? only for god.... but not for me so if your out there getting scamed remember its your falt no one elses.......

First time
learn from it

second time
your messed up

tree times
get a life

fallow me to the end this is my last day goodbye people

and yes cleare gentile out of your mind its not him you want its me good night

Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:54 am**

from my MSN logs with the main scammer wrote:[00:34:37] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: lol
[00:34:40] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: what a ruckus your making
[00:34:44] silver money: scaming suckers al the time how may i help you?
[00:34:53] silver money: i know
[00:35:03] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: i know, you got me once
[00:35:04] silver money: i cant help it :#
[00:35:07] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: i think
[00:35:10] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: no you were honest
[00:35:19] silver money: yes i was
[00:35:24] silver money: i mostly am
[00:35:25] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: do you remember me?
[00:35:31] silver money: yes i do
[00:35:36] silver money: thats why i pmed you
[00:35:37] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: haha
[00:35:51] silver money: so what you wanna talk about?
[00:35:55] silver money: its really late
[00:36:03] silver money: need sleep some time
[00:36:12] silver money: *sometime
[00:36:21] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: Lord ToÅl SolitaryEcho 6,600 Turns 6,000,000,000 Naquadah Aug 16, 2006 Completed.
SolitaryEcho Lord ToÅl 31,600,000,000 Naquadah 1 Naquadah Aug 16, 2006 Completed.
[00:36:22] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: haha
[00:36:23] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: anyway
[00:36:29] silver money: im so tired i dont think i posted that post right
[00:36:29] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: where do you live
[00:36:35] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: its 12:36 here
[00:36:37] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: california
[00:36:41] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: (AM)
[00:36:43] silver money: why does it matter?
[00:36:47] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: just curious
[00:36:50] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: its kinda late here also
[00:36:53] silver money: meh
[00:37:02] silver money: its like 10 am
[00:37:17] silver money: i havent been asleep
[00:37:20] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: did you pull an all nighter?
[00:37:26] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: duuuuuuude i wanna do that, sounds like fun
[00:37:29] silver money: just waching you guys scram around
[00:37:39] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: have i portrayed that image?
[00:37:54] silver money: what image?
[00:37:57] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: personally, i havnt been "scram"ing around
[00:38:08] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: i was trying to come off as logical and resoning
[00:38:18] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: *reasoning
[00:38:21] silver money: for what?
[00:38:26] silver money: that gentile crap?
[00:38:31] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: yeah
[00:38:37] silver money: lol
[00:38:45] silver money: it was kinda funny
[00:38:52] silver money: but im giveing it up
[00:38:58] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: your giving scamming up?
[00:38:58] silver money: must move on sometime
[00:39:08] silver money: yea
[00:39:17] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: i see
[00:39:18] silver money: whats the fun when your always right?
[00:39:25] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: how are you always right?
[00:39:26] silver money: i scam the same people
[00:39:29] silver money: over and over
[00:39:37] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: thats one thing i never get
[00:39:43] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: scamming isnt against the rules
[00:39:53] silver money: corect
[00:39:54] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: and they complain FOREVER
[00:40:01] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: and they never learn
[00:40:03] silver money: its their falt the fall into the trap
[00:40:11] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: if they get scammed once
[00:40:16] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: tough
[00:40:18] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: learn from it
[00:40:20] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: dont repeat it
[00:40:22] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: twice
[00:40:27] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: your messed up
[00:40:36] silver money: tree times
[00:40:39] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: haha
[00:40:41] silver money: go get a life
[00:40:44] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: seriously
[00:40:56] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: u were in EPA a forever long time ago
[00:40:57] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: right?
[00:41:02] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: for a month or two
[00:41:06] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: ?
[00:41:17] silver money: yup
[00:41:24] silver money: good peole
[00:41:30] silver money: need to learn more tho
[00:41:38] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: lol
[00:41:52] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: ok ill let you go on your way
[00:41:54] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: but before i do
[00:41:58] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: can i ask a favor of you
[00:42:06] silver money: sure....
[00:42:11] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: can you post one more time and make it clear that you are not gentile01
[00:42:21] silver money: hummm....
[00:42:26] silver money: how may i do that sure?
[00:42:31] silver money: i posted like 2 times
[00:42:51] silver money: should i make a new topic?
[00:42:57] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: no
[00:43:00] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: just 1 last post
[00:43:04] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: and say
[00:43:15] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: i am not gentile01 or somthing to that effect
[00:45:09] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: did you ever use this account?
[00:45:10] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: http://www.stargatewars.com/stats.php?id=51853
[00:45:17] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: just curious, as that was the account that scammed me
[00:46:38] silver money: idk
[00:46:40] silver money: cant remeber
[00:48:33] silver money: ok
[00:48:39] silver money: read my post
[00:48:50] silver money: tell me what you think
[00:49:03] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: excellent
[00:49:14] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: and do you mind if i post this MSN convo?
[00:49:27] silver money: nope
[00:49:30] silver money: go for it
[00:49:43] silver money: gentile is a good guy
[00:49:48] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: ok thanks
[00:50:00] silver money: i just like to mess people up to easy
[00:50:03] silver money: godd night
[00:50:06] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: night
[00:50:09] silver money: *good
[00:50:26] silver money: o forgot to tell you
[00:50:37] silver money: i will be seeing you in my logs LOL
[00:50:43] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: ?
[00:50:47] silver money: lol
[00:50:53] silver money: a little joke
[00:50:54] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: k im confused
[00:50:55] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: haha
[00:51:07] silver money: when i scammed you
[00:51:15] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: you didnt scam me
[00:51:16] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: i dont htink
[00:51:25] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: unless you are 51853
[00:51:37] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: only got scammed once
[00:51:42] silver money: hehe
[00:51:49] silver money: and you learnd
[00:52:03] silver money: hehe
[00:52:10] SolitaryEcho - Selling AT, 0k available: exactly
[00:52:16] silver money: well talk to you tomarrow
[00:52:28] silver money: *on this account*
[00:52:39] *** "silver money" signed off at Wed Dec 27 00:52:39 2006.

there you have it, please take him off your list now

Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:57 am**

**Filtered** did i say all that

im a long talker for a tired guy

Posted: **Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:19 am**

I have been investigating this issue and have reasons to believe that Gentile is simply being used (and is unaware of this)

Once my investigation is complete I will post the details however Jack Oneill if you would like to see the information I have I would be more than willing to share, but it does rule out Gentile as a multi

I would also like to add that I have known Gentile for a long time he is a self sacrificing and loyal member of 359 Company and I would be very very suprised if this turned out to be true.

Posted: **Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:03 am**

At this point if he scams someone, it's their fault for not reading. There have been plenty of threads before this about his scamming. Thanks for posting this O'Neill.

Posted: **Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:29 pm**

Ok i feel stupid now , im just after purchasing the lord soren account , ok my email is mailto:ethan_woz_ere@hotmail.com add me on msn , im horrified to see that so many have been scammed i should of done my homework on this , ok i know i cant get back the repuation of this account but on my last account before i left the game i was a active trader and i allways hated scammers so i am goining to refund anybody who has been scammed by the previous owners to a resnible extent because i want to try and get some stats up aswell so if anybody has had previous bad encounters with this account before january 5th 2007 it was not me . i am online now so u can talk to me

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:10 pm**

The guy Jack O'Neill wrote about has one more email:
mailto:native_kidd@homail.com

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