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I stand to lose about 5mil UU for my next ascension, don't go on about people having too lose stuff and it being too easy because you haven't even done a big ascension.

If they want quick ascensions they should have em for cheap because they lose something even more valuable, a chance to boost their ascended account, alot of people would give alot to be able to take the 2nd or 3rd ascensions again trust me on that!!

Inferno™ wrote:I stand to lose about 5mil UU for my next ascension, don't go on about people having too lose stuff and it being too easy because you haven't even done a big ascension.

If they want quick ascensions they should have em for cheap because they lose something even more valuable, a chance to boost their ascended account, alot of people would give alot to be able to take the 2nd or 3rd ascensions again trust me on that!!

Now you're just talking rubbish Inferno - what do you know about how I have ascended and what I lost when I ascended?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing - but you can't change the rules just because you look back and say 'oh i wish I'd done that differently.'

Like I said - Ascension was never meant to be as easy as it is - and it was ALWAYS meant to be costly.

The overarching point is - how costly ascending is is down to teh individual, you can either build your account (including mothership) up to way beyond what you need to ascend - and it therefore costs a lot.

Or, you don't.

Remember - Ascension is a choice - it is not forced upon anyone - therefore why do people moan so much about it? You know what you will lose before you ascend - the choice is yours.

after looking a bit in to this i realised that gettiing APP for slots isn't all that good, but maby you shudl get a bit more APP for the power of MS. I mean i had 40bil MS when i ascended and i got almalst nothing out of her. That shuld be fixed, the ratio

I voted yes, not that it makes a whole lot of difference to me because I have already ascended seven times and have one of the more powerful accounts in the game. I am not proposing offering a LOT of APP for the weapons slots, but for Pete's sake, the amount of APP you get from an MS now is embarrassing.

To Wolf: First of all, smart people don't quick ascend. Secondly, UP is the most efficient way to earn APP, but it also costs you more the more you have. So it is a delicate balancing act. Giving a little bit of APP for the weapons slots is not going to unbalance the game. Thirdly, yes it is easy to ascend but it is still difficult to ascend well, though I think more people are FINALLY catching on (too late to catch me but them's the perks for being one of the first to realize the importance of planet production and maximizing ascensions).

Anyway, give the people a tiny break on the MS APP, I say.

*sigh*

quickly is relative - those who ascended as soon as they could each time were the ones who got it wrong (and some of them are still suffering today) - what I mean by quickly is those who ascended quite fast, but did so whilst also ensuring they had a decent amount of APP, and sufficient resources to carry back into their ascended main account.

Nobody has yet to give a sufficient reason as to why MS weapon slots should get APP? A slot does not provide your mothership with power - so why should it provide an Ascended account with power?

You said it is not easy to ascend well - well I have news for you - It isn't meant to be!

Using the logic that people have used here, then you can just as easily state that any new player to the game should have an immediate army size of 1 million UU, 10,000 AT and a UP of 10k. Or would that be too easy?

People need to stop complaining about things and just get on with it.

Finally - I reiterate - Ascension is a choice, both in whether to ascend and how to manage your account to ascend - it is not forced upon anyone.

Untrained mercs dont give you any power either but they count towards APP.

Inferno™ wrote:Untrained mercs dont give you any power either but they count towards APP.

yea i was aming for that, had almalst 3mil of them and still only like 600APP, than i just sold them since i amde more naq from it, than i wuld out of those APP

Yeah - but they've got to do something haven't they! Think of it as their life force being turned into APP!

Next!

Wolf359 wrote:

Snow Wulf wrote:

Wolf359 wrote:I say no - all people would do is buy loads and loads of slots, and not buy the weapons.

Does a 'slot' really give you any power?

slots are far more expensive than weps

But it becomes cheaper if you no longer need to buy the weapons.

Honestly people - do you want to remove every difficulty from the game completely? Big deal, you don't get APP from weapons slots - but why the hell should you? You already get some APP for your Mothership, leave it at that and leave some small element of difficulty in the game!

At Inferno - As for UP. The really smart people therefore don't increase their UP that much (or build a huge mothership) if they are going for multiple ascensions quickly.

A realism check people - you need approx 1,800 APP to Ascend - now just before I gave my account away it was ready to reascend with in excess of 60,000 APP - and that was without even trying, and having come out of the back end of a war!

There needs to be some risk and loss left in this game! Ascension was never meant to be easy - and now you want to make it even easier?

umm, pumping up IS a good idea wolf there ARE people who actively play ascended. i know of someone ascending with a 170k raw up for just that purpose

bryan wrote:i know of someone ascending with a 170k raw up for just that purpose

i think i might know who you mean but i will not comment on that person's mathematical skills (i mean would ask myself whether it's his first ascencion for not knowing what he'll get out of it) for everyone who had the choice of ascending could have done some calculations and found out some very interesting things. (Including the fact that selling untrained mercs to get naq for app's is a bad idea, lol who does that sort of thing?)

bryan wrote:

Wolf359 wrote:

Snow Wulf wrote:

Wolf359 wrote:I say no - all people would do is buy loads and loads of slots, and not buy the weapons.

Does a 'slot' really give you any power?

slots are far more expensive than weps

But it becomes cheaper if you no longer need to buy the weapons.

Honestly people - do you want to remove every difficulty from the game completely? Big deal, you don't get APP from weapons slots - but why the hell should you? You already get some APP for your Mothership, leave it at that and leave some small element of difficulty in the game!

At Inferno - As for UP. The really smart people therefore don't increase their UP that much (or build a huge mothership) if they are going for multiple ascensions quickly.

A realism check people - you need approx 1,800 APP to Ascend - now just before I gave my account away it was ready to reascend with in excess of 60,000 APP - and that was without even trying, and having come out of the back end of a war!

There needs to be some risk and loss left in this game! Ascension was never meant to be easy - and now you want to make it even easier?

umm, pumping up IS a good idea wolf there ARE people who actively play ascended. i know of someone ascending with a 170k raw up for just that purpose

I didn't say it wasn't. - it's just that people are complaining about losing stats/resources when ascending. It is a good idea to have a high UP when ascending - but it is not necessary to have a HUGE UP. Whenever I ascended/reascended my UP was never more than 10k, yet I maintained a decent and competitive Ascension account.

This argument isn't about losing stats/recources its about getting APP for what you have bought. MS hangers and stuff.

i think its too late to be added now. too many people are already Lg or higher and lost all the MS stuff at previous ascensions without getting APP.

also i gotta agree with wolf359 here, we all know for ages that slots/hangars do not add up to APPs, everyone building up a huge MS knew it beforehand- so why should we change it now? cause a few people that have some kick-ash motherships and want to reascend soon? its part of the games´ economy system a(at least to draw some naq out of the game) and shouldnt be changed.