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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:36 am
by Lord_Zeus
No. Without raiding it is impossible to do well if you are not already set up unless you intend to play this game for around 5 years... Even with raiding it is virtually impossible, try raiding 1 mil uu per day for 3 months... you get your 100 mil army, and your still miles behind. The game needs a reset, or a drastic change to make it Easy to catch up.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:36 am
by Zarakai Kenpachi
_Blackmagic_ wrote:i would have to say that if your goal is fun its possible .... but for the highest rank, most overall power, armysize or naq no as you cant possibly work that hard and have that much determination as a player that already has a 10mil armysize can put in a total of a few hours work everyday to your 24 hours and you would still never catch him as his income/uu per turn would always keep him ahead, unless you have a big wallet :roll: .


:lol:

i think the real breakthrough in growth happens when you reach these benchmarks:

100mil income
500mil income
1bil income


it gets easier to grow and alot faster each time your each one of these goals, but 100mil income really gives you a kickstart to your account and is easily achieved these days.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:09 am
by slicky
Lord_Zeus wrote:No. Without raiding it is impossible to do well if you are not already set up unless you intend to play this game for around 5 years... Even with raiding it is virtually impossible, try raiding 1 mil uu per day for 3 months... you get your 100 mil army, and your still miles behind. The game needs a reset, or a drastic change to make it Easy to catch up.



You have absolutely no clue what your talking about.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:31 am
by Tyber Zann
slicky wrote:
Lord_Zeus wrote:No. Without raiding it is impossible to do well if you are not already set up unless you intend to play this game for around 5 years... Even with raiding it is virtually impossible, try raiding 1 mil uu per day for 3 months... you get your 100 mil army, and your still miles behind. The game needs a reset, or a drastic change to make it Easy to catch up.



You have absolutely no clue what your talking about.


lol.

i would love http://www.stargatewars2.com to come out :P

but i dont plan on paying admin to go do it, so....ascend ascend ascend. then RAID RAID RAID!

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:18 am
by Zarakai Kenpachi
slicky wrote:
Lord_Zeus wrote:No. Without raiding it is impossible to do well if you are not already set up unless you intend to play this game for around 5 years... Even with raiding it is virtually impossible, try raiding 1 mil uu per day for 3 months... you get your 100 mil army, and your still miles behind. The game needs a reset, or a drastic change to make it Easy to catch up.



You have absolutely no clue what your talking about.


lol ill second that, you do realise Zeus that the biggest army in the game is 1**,***,*** so 1month of raiding 1mil a day will only get you to 30mil :P

i myself am planning a raid party to get me to 99mil by the end of march which wont be impossible at all. (anyone who wants to donate to my cause can send or broker me with uu :P)

the game is very balanced as it is with some small adjustments to planets and fleets. the big guys cant get bigger because of restrictions put in place on them and not without some severe hard work.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:28 am
by slicky
Zarakai Kenpachi wrote:the big guys cant get bigger because of restrictions put in place on them and not without some severe hard work.


Tho i have a feeling those resrictions wont be there for ever, and they can still grow quite fast if they really wanted to.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:32 am
by Zarakai Kenpachi
slicky wrote:
Zarakai Kenpachi wrote:the big guys cant get bigger because of restrictions put in place on them and not without some severe hard work.


Tho i have a feeling those resrictions wont be there for ever, and they can still grow quite fast if they really wanted to.


well thats true, i know a few people are testing the plague as we speak so wont be long before they figure out how the sequence of deaths work and how to combat it.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:47 am
by lord deth4uall
Cool thanks guys... I am still trying to climb without raiding and attacking... :P but it is starting to get hard around the top two hundred mark... :S

Re: An Honest Question About SGW...

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:27 pm
by Myseri
deth4uall wrote:OK, I have seen so much since I joined this game and I was beginning to wonder... Can someone sit back and enjoy the game and succeed in it without attacking and raiding? What is your opinion? Thanks!


Truly, I haven't attacked or raided in about a months time now, if you look at my attack log it is only has stealin' of planets :D

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:58 pm
by Lord_Zeus
Zarakai Kenpachi wrote:
slicky wrote:
Lord_Zeus wrote:No. Without raiding it is impossible to do well if you are not already set up unless you intend to play this game for around 5 years... Even with raiding it is virtually impossible, try raiding 1 mil uu per day for 3 months... you get your 100 mil army, and your still miles behind. The game needs a reset, or a drastic change to make it Easy to catch up.



You have absolutely no clue what your talking about.


lol ill second that, you do realise Zeus that the biggest army in the game is 1**,***,*** so 1month of raiding 1mil a day will only get you to 30mil :P

i myself am planning a raid party to get me to 99mil by the end of march which wont be impossible at all. (anyone who wants to donate to my cause can send or broker me with uu :P)

the game is very balanced as it is with some small adjustments to planets and fleets. the big guys cant get bigger because of restrictions put in place on them and not without some severe hard work.


I said 3 months... have fun raiding a mil a day for 3 months... ok, current prices of uu are about 600 mil right, that means that for 1 uu to earn its worth considering you keep all of your naq and don't spend it on anythign else it takes over 100 days. The games logarithmic, its impossible to catch up now except over a lot of time and effort.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:24 pm
by SVaRuN
You have missed some details mate actually both of you with kenpachi....about the fact you need to have over 40 mils of army size to be able to massively buy turns for 1 mil per day...so I guess you just have to get to 40 mils+ and then all you need is two month...no big deal ey...thats why everyone out there have it... :wink:

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:28 pm
by Munchy
All I have to say is raiding 1 million per day is easier said than done ;-)

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:53 pm
by Robe
Munchy wrote:All I have to say is raiding 1 million per day is easier said than done ;-)



Indeed.
Raiding is not as profitable as it once was.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:04 pm
by High Empty
Robe wrote:
Munchy wrote:All I have to say is raiding 1 million per day is easier said than done ;-)



Indeed.
Raiding is not as profitable as it once was.


Remebers the time when SVaRuN*( i think) raided robe for 1-2M a year ago.

slicky wrote:There is one option where you dont have to have a big UP or raid to get a large army or succeed in this game, and thats just pure trading.

For instance take Mujo a respected player and some would say he has succeeded in this game. As far as i'm aware he did no raiding, he traded his way through the game. (mainly through selling me and profitteroles turns)

Im sure there are other players that have done the same.


HI SLICKY, i pretty much did pure trading and now i have to work with a go between :roll: :smt010

:smt014 :smt065 :smt063 :smt064 :smt071 :smt072 Now if only that limit were removed.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:25 am
by slicky
high empty wrote:
Robe wrote:
Munchy wrote:All I have to say is raiding 1 million per day is easier said than done ;-)



Indeed.
Raiding is not as profitable as it once was.


Remebers the time when SVaRuN*( i think) raided robe for 1-2M a year ago.

slicky wrote:There is one option where you dont have to have a big UP or raid to get a large army or succeed in this game, and thats just pure trading.

For instance take Mujo a respected player and some would say he has succeeded in this game. As far as i'm aware he did no raiding, he traded his way through the game. (mainly through selling me and profitteroles turns)

Im sure there are other players that have done the same.


HI SLICKY, i pretty much did pure trading and now i have to work with a go between :roll: :smt010

:smt014 :smt065 :smt063 :smt064 :smt071 :smt072 Now if only that limit were removed.


Im glad someone acctualy read my post. :wink:

It is not impossible to catch up at all. Raiding 1 million UU per day is difficult but it can be done, i have done it on many a good day. Yes you have to put in bags of effort but if you want to catch up with people that have also put in loads of effort over the time then you should have to work bloody hard, it shouldn't be an easy ride to catch people up. Its just the way the game is.