god of darkness wrote:i agree with inferno. stargatewars isn't as it was before. now it's full of planet stealing noobs who abuse ppt's to be safe.
something needs to be done.
make it 1 ppt a week instead of 2.
that would be enough for the people who use it during the weekend.
and for people who need more,they need to buy it for $. this would make sgw more active.in the good old days,you needed to bank very often to have naq everyday. now it's just sitting on your ass and log in once every 2 days.
taking planets away would solve your quarells, not removing market PPT. and you barely grow just sitting on PPT so thats not really a huge deal.
as teal'auc said, again, this suggestion to, would only benifit the larger accounts in this game.
I believe ppt's have been more limited on this wave of quantum, correct? I have also heard that it is a reason why this wave is more boring than past ones. Given, main isn't quantum(thank god), but the concept is simular. PPT's allow players to do two things
-Take mini breaks from the game
-Build up, either to strike someone or just rebuild after a massing.
If the system isn't broken, why fix it?
If you don't want ppt's, play ascention
If you don't want free ppts(no real $), play chaos
If you want ppt's, but less of them, play Quantum.
Munchy wrote:I believe ppt's have been more limited on this wave of quantum, correct? I have also heard that it is a reason why this wave is more boring than past ones. Given, main isn't quantum(thank god), but the concept is simular. PPT's allow players to do two things -Take mini breaks from the game -Build up, either to strike someone or just rebuild after a massing.
If the system isn't broken, why fix it?
If you don't want ppt's, play ascention If you don't want free ppts(no real $), play chaos If you want ppt's, but less of them, play Quantum.
Im guessing your new, teh system was how is being suggested for over a year, it is bloody broken. All you get is complaints, no1 is happy, people with no defense are mroe of a risk than people with defense, ill tell you why its **Filtered**, because PPT ruins everything.
And we do play ascension, if you werent here before thse ppt updates then I suggest you dont dictate to me what I should be doing.
Oh and tealc, it didnt use to be a strategic thing, it was made a strategic thing by admins hand. and can be un-made by a simple click of a button.
Munchy wrote:I believe ppt's have been more limited on this wave of quantum, correct? I have also heard that it is a reason why this wave is more boring than past ones. Given, main isn't quantum(thank god), but the concept is simular. PPT's allow players to do two things -Take mini breaks from the game -Build up, either to strike someone or just rebuild after a massing.
If the system isn't broken, why fix it?
If you don't want ppt's, play ascention If you don't want free ppts(no real $), play chaos If you want ppt's, but less of them, play Quantum.
Im guessing your new, teh system was how is being suggested for over a year, it is bloody broken. All you get is complaints, no1 is happy, people with no defense are mroe of a risk than people with defense, ill tell you why its stuff, because PPT ruins everything.
And we do play ascension, if you werent here before thse ppt updates then I suggest you dont dictate to me what I should be doing.
Oh and tealc, it didnt use to be a strategic thing, it was made a strategic thing by admins hand. and can be un-made by a simple click of a button.
What I hate is when people can't accept that games evolve. Your opinion is that ppt ruins everything, I disagree. So you can't sit on someones account aswell, or farm them 24/7. You can still hit them pretty badly, and farm them to a much weaker state. PPT allows players to strike back, and 2 days is hardly enough income to do that.
And every server is different, that is a good thing. You should play what you like, but judging by the popular of main over the other servers I would have to say that most people like it how it is. No need to get angry about it
Because I also play ascention, and have played Quantum and Chaos in the past. PPT/SS differences is one of the things that have set those servers apart from main, for better or worse is debatable, but it is a fact.
i have been here since the first week, the PPT update was one of the better things to happen to this game. only update that didnt go well, was planets, and thats simply because of the attitudes it causes. games change and evolve, much like life, you cant expect your life to stay exactly how it is for ever, and when it does change, you adapt and learn to live with it how it is. the same goes for SGW, learn to like it how it is, and stop whining about all these problems it has, if you dont like the game, why not leave? whats the point in staying around here, complaining about everything in the game, nit picking at potential problems with things, or problems you see but no one else does.
if you are truely dissatisfied with the game, go away, no one is forcing you to stay, be it here or in your life.
dont complian that people who are newer, now have a chance, without waiting 2 years. dont complain that people can now acctually protect themselvs from massing, or being farmed constantly.
and yes, PPT is the only truely effective way to stop that, metal is one of the biggest guys ingame, at one stage he had 3 jobs, and was constantly being massed by CoP members and farmed every turn. one of the biggest defences in-game and it still couldnt stop it.
the market PPT option was one of the best updates to be introduced. dont like it? well leaveing is always an option.
PPT is a useful tool, but I believe that it is being abused at this point. There was a time when going on PPT was a decision, is it worth it? That was when you could go through the list of players and see maybe 10 players on PPT. They were still paying naq, it was just that it cost a whole heck of a lot more. I don't think that PPT should go away, but the cost for a PPT needs to go up. PPT needs to be a decision, is it worth the naq to be safe for 48 hours.
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:PPT is a useful tool, but I believe that it is being abused at this point. There was a time when going on PPT was a decision, is it worth it? That was when you could go through the list of players and see maybe 10 players on PPT. They were still paying naq, it was just that it cost a whole heck of a lot more. I don't think that PPT should go away, but the cost for a PPT needs to go up. PPT needs to be a decision, is it worth the naq to be safe for 48 hours.
perhaps if the amount is to be changed for PPT's, it could be propotional to your army size? so that smaller players can still have access to them when they need it.
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:PPT is a useful tool, but I believe that it is being abused at this point. There was a time when going on PPT was a decision, is it worth it? That was when you could go through the list of players and see maybe 10 players on PPT. They were still paying naq, it was just that it cost a whole heck of a lot more. I don't think that PPT should go away, but the cost for a PPT needs to go up. PPT needs to be a decision, is it worth the naq to be safe for 48 hours.
perhaps if the amount is to be changed for PPT's, it could be propotional to your army size? so that smaller players can still have access to them when they need it.
Well that's a great idea, but I have seen many suggestions about basing something on army size, and each time, admin has never done it. So let's think more logically. Raise the price more, say to like 20bill to do a PPT.
the basic point is, If you are not actively playing the game at that stage, you should not gain any advantage. you are not playing, you should not advance.
removing the ppt will mean that people will get farmed. this in turn will mean people will mass more. this in turn will start more wars, and actually turn this into a interesting game to play. PPT has turned into something everyone sits on for 4 days a week. not something which comes for giving to the server, not something that is tactical, just something that happens.
yes people like _appohis__, Elusive, brother_crit, Kredit Kard Kaskit sat on ppt 7 days a week. Does it really matter? everyone knew they were not using any skill to get to their position. But they were funding the site for the rest of us to play.
Spy levels meant something back then. you had 2 days to gather all the naq you could to get them. you had alliance-wide opperations to get those spy levels. now, you can ppt 8 days, overbank, and half a dozen other things. getting a spy level is meaningless.
Other "disadvantages"... People who have time to play will get ahead, and it will be unfair.... OMG, shut up already. if someone wants to put 14 hours a day, 7 days a week into this game, then they DESERVE to be #1. this might be their life. that is their choice. if someone is willing to put that much time into it, then i WANT them to be #1. they have put the effort in, give them the reward for it.
Forcing the smaller player to pay $$$ to get spy levels? well all the older "big" players had to do it before the market, or really time things well, with a hell of a lot of planning. why shouldnt they have to do the same thing?
Forcing the smaller players not to ppt 4 days a week will make them quit. LOL, come on. if you are a smaller player, who wants to advance in this game, the WORST thing you can do is ppt. you need to increase your income over the next bloke. farming, raiding, whatever. Forcing them off ppt, will actually help their growth.
You want to take a mini-break from the game.... why should you get your income? use vacation mode. you aint playing, you should therefore not advance, not grow, not anything. you should fall behind the people who are working.
Getting massed 24/7 for a week or 2? come on, be real. after the first 2 massings of an account, there is basically no other damage done. you can sit on someone for 2 weeks after massing them twice, and wont cause anywhere near the amount of damage the first 2 hits did. its boring, and people give up. it wont effect the game much. Hell, Nebulator could manage to get into the top 30 without having to ppt all week, with Omega sitting on his ass 24/7. granted he was cheating, but he had omega sitting on his ass. it is possible.
It may surprise you, but i wasnt omega for my first 16-17 months of this game. i was mainly AK, an omega target, and a lone wolf with no help. i also ppt an entire once in that time, when i originally got SS. and yet, i had an account that was able to jump onto the first page whenever i wanted to. You say you get farmed. Well i was farmed by KGC for an entire week. in that time my def went from rank 500+ to rank 15 in 1 week.... and he stopped farming. i wasnt getting farmed, because i actually was playing with a decent defence. you dont need any ppts if you play this game properly.
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