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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:35 am
by Tok`ra
Lord_Zeus wrote:Sorry to go against the flow, but I dislike it... if you can't log on Once in 2 days, you don't deserve to keep your naq... just get farmed.. geez its not that devastating... Personally 4 days of potential ppt a week is too much anyway... it largely benefits the large players due to them keeping a higher percentage of their naq... and its not in the spirit of the game. 1 a week... mabye.



ANY update will benefit the bigger players, simply because they are bigger.

Prehaps limit income and UP during a 4day PPT to or 1/2 ?

That way it counts as a 2day, but grants them 4days of protection ?

And the option for spending all 3 MTs for a PPT is a nice one, as it gives smaller players an option.

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:42 am
by Sleipnir
Lord_Zeus wrote:Sorry to go against the flow, but I dislike it... if you can't log on Once in 2 days, you don't deserve to keep your naq... just get farmed.. geez its not that devastating... Personally 4 days of potential ppt a week is too much anyway... it largely benefits the large players due to them keeping a higher percentage of their naq... and its not in the spirit of the game. 1 a week... mabye.


Read again. That's what my suggestion was countering. It will allow small players exactly 2 days of PPT per week, keeping 100% of their naq, at the cost of their market turns. Also, it counts as 2 PPT's used so you can't get one free and one for $$. Some people have no use for planets, name changes, or extra turns. Since the recent additions I've come to see the MT's as a way to customize your playstyle. If you raid, you'll use your MT's to buy AT's. If you annoy people frequently, you may opt for the extra name changes. Statbuilders can go for the planets. Warmongers can get PPT or MPDSD for defensive purposes. However, PPT for pure profit is not an option if you don't have at least 1M miners, that's what I'm trying to change.

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:07 am
by Eternal Serenity
Lord_Zeus wrote:Sorry to go against the flow, but I dislike it... if you can't log on Once in 2 days, you don't deserve to keep your naq... just get farmed.. geez its not that devastating... Personally 4 days of potential ppt a week is too much anyway... it largely benefits the large players due to them keeping a higher percentage of their naq... and its not in the spirit of the game. 1 a week... mabye.


While you may be right I like the idea. Trying saying that when you loose 70 bill naq. because of not having the ablity to get on. (Even worse it was on my birthday last week :-D ) Especially when the guy has a strike 5 times higher than def.

Re: usin both PPT's

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:24 am
by Grand Admiral Martin
TsPhoenix wrote:Here's an idea,
why don't we allow four times worth of 1/2 market supporter status to be done at once allowing for double the PPT time but still using both PPT's at the same time.
People who want to use both PPT's would be able to, people going on holiday for less than four days would still be able to keep getting income without going on vacation mode.


why not allow all 3 to be used. allow 3 ppts then ppl could buy it all at once and could go away for 6 days on holidays or do tests etc

Re: usin both PPT's

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:00 am
by hfown
Emperor Martin wrote:
TsPhoenix wrote:Here's an idea,
why don't we allow four times worth of 1/2 market supporter status to be done at once allowing for double the PPT time but still using both PPT's at the same time.
People who want to use both PPT's would be able to, people going on holiday for less than four days would still be able to keep getting income without going on vacation mode.


why not allow all 3 to be used. allow 3 ppts then ppl could buy it all at once and could go away for 6 days on holidays or do tests etc


or make 5 ppts for a 10day ppt that would be nice....... or 10ppts for 20 days of ppt a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tests dont usually take 6 days straight do they?

(that was sarcasm ^ ) that 3 MT for 4 days of ppt is an ok idea

Re: usin both PPT's

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:34 am
by Tok`ra
Emperor Martin wrote:
TsPhoenix wrote:Here's an idea,
why don't we allow four times worth of 1/2 market supporter status to be done at once allowing for double the PPT time but still using both PPT's at the same time.
People who want to use both PPT's would be able to, people going on holiday for less than four days would still be able to keep getting income without going on vacation mode.


why not allow all 3 to be used. allow 3 ppts then ppl could buy it all at once and could go away for 6 days on holidays or do tests etc


Because then people woud hide on PPT 6 days a week.

I say keep it like it is, but allow longer PPTs, but reduce AT generation, UU generation, and naq generation by 1/2 for a 4day, and 1/3 for a 6day.

You use MTs to partily remove your realm from the physical realm, but that slows time in your realm so only two days pass, while 4 or 6 days pass on the outside.

For the smaller realms, allow using all 4 MTs for a standard 2day PPT.

Re: usin both PPT's

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:02 am
by Eternal Serenity
Tok`ra wrote:
Emperor Martin wrote:
TsPhoenix wrote:Here's an idea,
why don't we allow four times worth of 1/2 market supporter status to be done at once allowing for double the PPT time but still using both PPT's at the same time.
People who want to use both PPT's would be able to, people going on holiday for less than four days would still be able to keep getting income without going on vacation mode.


why not allow all 3 to be used. allow 3 ppts then ppl could buy it all at once and could go away for 6 days on holidays or do tests etc


Because then people woud hide on PPT 6 days a week.

I say keep it like it is, but allow longer PPTs, but reduce AT generation, UU generation, and naq generation by 1/2 for a 4day, and 1/3 for a 6day.

You use MTs to partily remove your realm from the physical realm, but that slows time in your realm so only two days pass, while 4 or 6 days pass on the outside.

For the smaller realms, allow using all 4 MTs for a standard 2day PPT.


Many go on ppt to make naq. for other things, its even more helpful to use when a person is unable to log in for several days slowing the rate of production down makes it almost worthless (though I guess something is better than nothing). If you're going to be gone for 6 days just go on vacation mode, thats to me where its getting a little ridiculus.

Re: usin both PPT's

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:16 am
by Zeratul
Tok`ra wrote:For the smaller realms, allow using all 4 MTs for a standard 2day PPT.


what 4th MT? there are only 3 MTs...

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:38 am
by hfown
that might have been his suggestion... make 4 MTs total per week

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:00 am
by Liquidfoxx
And give another 13bil naq out to all those who don't use it? :D

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:49 am
by Tivadar
Ston wrote:
Fenrir Oorgata wrote:
Vendetta wrote:
Sleipnir wrote:I'd rather see a different change in PPT's. Currently, PPT is only profitable for people with armies of a couple million, because it costs so much. We've been given a couple of cool things we can do with our market turns instead of using them to trade. I'd like to see the option of trading in 3MT's for a free PPT (and count it as 2 PPT's used). For the high income people this is pointless because they will get more profit if they just buy 2. But for people with less income, this gives them a chance to profit from PPT as well.


i like it


I second the motion.


same here




agree too, on both

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:03 pm
by Dagr
The four day PPT idea I like, but I think Tok`ra is right it should only be 3 days for 3 MTs.

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:24 pm
by hfown
Hellsing wrote:
Ston wrote:
Fenrir Oorgata wrote:
Vendetta wrote:
Sleipnir wrote:I'd rather see a different change in PPT's. Currently, PPT is only profitable for people with armies of a couple million, because it costs so much. We've been given a couple of cool things we can do with our market turns instead of using them to trade. I'd like to see the option of trading in 3MT's for a free PPT (and count it as 2 PPT's used). For the high income people this is pointless because they will get more profit if they just buy 2. But for people with less income, this gives them a chance to profit from PPT as well.


i like it


I second the motion.


same here


agree too, on both


me too

what you mean 3 MTs for 3 days it would be a lot easier to sell 1 MT for 15bil and use that 15 to buy a ppt then buy another ppt the idea is merge the 2 ppts to make 1 4day ppt but still use up both ppt's.....if that makes any sense

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:29 pm
by Dagr
Some people are lazy and won't sell them.

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:33 pm
by [sarevok]
No to mention that the small accoutns cant sell theirs cause of no trade ability with full SS. 6day PPT is a little to much really, 4 is enough to get you though the weekend if you can only access throught the week (for some bazar reason). And if your doing exams, just vacation mode, or i'm sure you can spare 5 mins to PPT again anyway :?