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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:06 am
by Quina Quen
I'm a bit puzzled by rule - 3) No sharing or giving out your account details to others. Giving your account details in order to save your own backside from getting farmed is not acceptable, I appreciate that. But why can't two people play on one account? You get joint bank accounts for Christ sake so why not a joint SGW account? What if my long term partner wanted to play but didn't want to create an account of her own and with my permission wanted to play on mine on a regular and consistent basis?

I'm close to rambling something about schizophrenia too, but I'll save you all the reading. :P

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:10 am
by *Crowley
Diamond Dust wrote:I'm a bit puzzled by rule - 3) No sharing or giving out your account details to others. Giving your account details in order to save your own backside from getting farmed is not acceptable, I appreciate that. But why can't two people play on one account? You get joint bank accounts for Christ sake so why not a joint SGW account? What if my long term partner wanted to play but didn't want to create an account of her own and with my permission wanted to play on mine on a regular and consistent basis?

I'm close to rambling something about schizophrenia too, but I'll save you all the reading. :P


I just think this has to do with: if 2 people use one account they could be online 24h/day wich puts other people who don't have friends who also play in disadvantage.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:13 am
by Quina Quen
biohazard79 wrote:
I just think this has to do with: if 2 people use one account they could be online 24h/day wich puts other people who don't have friends who also play in disadvantage.


By that logic you might be suggesting that my theoretical long term partner is in another time zone, so yes, that is possible, and yes that is pushing the boundaries of gaining an unfair advantage but no, my partner wouldn't be overseas. Think how often I'd get laid, I couldn't cope with that. I'm talking about a marital situation. You'd be located in the same house, on the same IP, using the same computer more than likely. Infact, I bet you twenty dollars that there are couples who do this already.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:28 am
by *Crowley
Diamond Dust wrote:
biohazard79 wrote:
I just think this has to do with: if 2 people use one account they could be online 24h/day wich puts other people who don't have friends who also play in disadvantage.


By that logic you might be suggesting that my theoretical long term partner is in another time zone, so yes, that is possible, and yes that is pushing the boundaries of gaining an unfair advantage but no, my partner wouldn't be overseas. Think how often I'd get laid, I couldn't cope with that. I'm talking about a marital situation. You'd be located in the same house, on the same IP, using the same computer more than likely. Infact, I bet you twenty dollars that there are couples who do this already.


first of all : I don't bet :-D :-D not my religion but my job forbids me that
secondly... Indeed there are probably people doing it allready... and as long as it is the same account used on 1, maybe 2 IPs it is hard to check...
But admin has stated those rule to avoid cheating, and by subscribing to the forum you normally accept the rules etc.... (blablablabla)...

so it just depends on the person itself if the person is honest or not

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:33 am
by Quina Quen
You're talking about honesty? It's not dishonest to share an account, in exactly the way as it is not dishonest to want to share your experiences in life with someone. Have you never been in love!? :P

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:36 am
by *Crowley
Diamond Dust wrote:You're talking about honesty? It's not dishonest to share an account, in exactly the way as it is not dishonest to want to share your experiences in life with someone. Have you never been in love!? :P


depends... honesty also means following the rules.. and since the rules forbid sharing...

about being in love: I have been maried, divorced allready, have 2 magnificent daughters who are living with me and I'm co-habiting with my new wife, who hates SGW btw....
But as long as she plays her bigfish games... I keep playing SGW :-D :-D :-D

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:35 am
by AncientAnubis
Shinobii wrote:Hasn't admin granted this kind of request in the past? I'd search, but i'm lazy.


He has, but the last time we got burned (Elladan). However, I believe this guy's case is valid.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:10 am
by Virisken Soshir
well, i got back in town last night, lost all my planets (no beacons >< or logs) and got farmed like crazyeven with a lowered 78m income, and believe me if i had access to an internet cafe or a library WITH internet ida been there, the problem is it was a very small town in upstate newyork, frankfork, and the infrastructure there is like 50 years old, their library doesnt even have computers lol.

anyways im just making lists now of what was taken to be eitehr returned inr eperation to whatever double or triple amount i decide, or to take it out on their stats for all time.

thanks for all the condolences

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:49 am
by Neimenljivi
My sympathies :cry:

Regards,
Neimenljivi

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:11 am
by Cole
I believe explaining it to admin via the urgent mail address is a right thing to do, such drama can't be discussed to be wrong reason, so it's best thing to do.
I'm sorry for your loss :(

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:01 am
by Spacey
Diamond Dust wrote:...But why can't two people play on one account?...
I think it also has to do with people giving account details to another person, something happens and they are no longer friends/in a relationship in your case, and one person logs into the account and kills it.

It has happened before where the account was gutted, I would be hesitant to say deleted, but I know of some being gutted. The rule is there to prevent it from happening.

@ Virisken Soshir move all miners, def, and covert, put it all in attack.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:08 am
by Virisken Soshir
well, i did i loaned all out my uus but that still left me with 3.7mil lifers even on noxcrit i made like 80mil a turn~ i just decided meh ima sell my account and uus im mad that people would vulture, although you can never prove they do read the forums but meh i dont have to be logical x.x =/

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:08 am
by Destruction1
I'll hold my hand up and say I'm one of the one's who hit the account. I had no idea that this thread existed and the circumstances behind the account being were it was in the rankings.

Please accept my apologises and sympathies with regards to your grandfather and broker me for whatever damage I did. If I had known all the details I would never have dreamt of hitting an account coping with the problems you were dealing with.

D1

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:27 am
by Lore
Destruction1 wrote:I'll hold my hand up and say I'm one of the one's who hit the account. I had no idea that this thread existed and the circumstances behind the account being were it was in the rankings.

Please accept my apologises and sympathies with regards to your grandfather and broker me for whatever damage I did. If I had known all the details I would never have dreamt of hitting an account coping with the problems you were dealing with.

D1


Very honorable of you.

But it does prove my point that 80% of the players don't read forums.

@ Diamond Dust, 2 people sharing 1 account is completely wrong and illegal.

1 account per person period.

I mean whats stopping me and an assuie or even me an assuie and a russian from all working the same account. We take shifts either 12 or 8 hours each and the account will never have any down time, will never have an resources out and can literally sit on someone elses account 24/7.

This is wrong in every sense of this game.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:01 am
by Destruction1
Lore wrote:
Very honorable of you.

But it does prove my point that 80% of the players don't read forums.



I'm more than happy to attack accounts where people have got fed up and left, and I'm more than happy to attack accounts of people who are active and can fight back. But I draw the line at attacking accounts of people who are dealing with traumatic real life issues. Sadly as in this case sometimes you don't find out until afterwards. At times like that i am more than happy to do whatever I can to help people rebuild.

There does need to be some system in place to deal with things like this. Although I don't know how forum could implement and police it properly. Maybe a one time special galactic peace button. It can onnly be used once during the lifetime of an account, and it puts you in vacation mode for 30 days. No income, No UU, No Turns. Unlike the vacation mode you can't log back in after a couple of days to stop people abusing it, It doesn't matter if you have attacked in the previous 24 hours or not. In fact it could take away any profit you have made in terms of naq or uu in the previous 24 hours to impliment.

It would be a 'one off' thing to use in case of real life emergancies when no other option is possible and you don't want to see a couple of years worth of work on your account go down the pan.

If they have an ascended account its linked into that as well so both of them can't be used for 30 days. The 30 day limit would stop people abusing it during war. And allow only the people who really needed it use it.

Just a suggestion?