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EliteAceMan wrote:If ascention ended.... Mojo would have to be awarded alot of naq... what higher then a trillion? and a few billion UU :-p

he wouldn' get a few bil uu
the best he could hope for is for pure naq which he then could invest into up and ms and whatever

cos everyone knows you get ridiculously little app for supers/spies/uu's
if it would work the other way around then main itself would get unbalanced

Wake up and smell the coffee urogard. Main is already unbalanced. When an account that has less than half the army size of another can mass a defense that is three times his strike in less than half an hour, something is hideously broken. Ascension is the balanced server. You can not just concentrate on one or two stats in ascension and be able to pull off such a feat. Ask all those who have tried.....oh wait! No one has because that would require a certain amount of skill and strategy, something which many of the "nouveau riche" do not possess.

Shooting Star wrote:Wake up and smell the coffee urogard. Main is already unbalanced. When an account that has less than half the army size of another can mass a defense that is three times his strike in less than half an hour, something is hideously broken. Ascension is the balanced server. You can not just concentrate on one or two stats in ascension and be able to pull off such a feat. Ask all those who have tried.....oh wait! No one has because that would require a certain amount of skill and strategy, something which many of the "nouveau riche" do not possess.

From now on im just gonna laugh at you really.......

Now the serious part.....

Im writing a suggestion and i will post it soon im open for critics then and il expect to get some too

the only thing I want for ascension is a guide.


I can't understand ANY of it

Raven wrote:

Shooting Star wrote:Wake up and smell the coffee urogard. Main is already unbalanced. When an account that has less than half the army size of another can mass a defense that is three times his strike in less than half an hour, something is hideously broken. Ascension is the balanced server. You can not just concentrate on one or two stats in ascension and be able to pull off such a feat. Ask all those who have tried.....oh wait! No one has because that would require a certain amount of skill and strategy, something which many of the "nouveau riche" do not possess.

From now on im just gonna laugh at you really.......

Now the serious part.....

Im writing a suggestion and i will post it soon im open for critics then and il expect to get some too

Laugh all you want, but when you realize that having the number one account in ascension actually means something, ie. that you can't be massed by someone ranked 5000 or lower then you will realize the balance that is ascension. Balance means you actually have to be the same level as someone to be able to mass them.

[AK]Mystake wrote:the only thing I want for ascension is a guide.


I can't understand ANY of it

I have tried mate but "someone" insists on it staying "hidden"???

go figure

NDCDN wrote:Your complaint is only based on your not throwing a lot of resources into defence.

This is actually one of the biggest problems of ascended. Everyone is turtling. I just tried to do some farming, which was pretty futile. I have a top 40 strike. If I go find someone with a bit of DMU out, I have to look a couple pages down in the rankings. So I hit 3 people. I got stopped by one because of the $%^&* rank modifier, so only 2 got through. After paying for all my repairs, I was left with a whopping 128M DMU. There needs to be some balancing work.

-Fix the raiding issue -> defenses won't need to be so crazy high
-Fix the covert visibility ratio's -> people will spy more and attack more
-Reduce rank modifier effects -> make attacking a bit down the ranks worthwhile.

Besides those points, I really like ascended.

i love ascension, the challange/luck of not being raided, balancing stat powerups with growth, balancing defence with army size its great .

in saying this i do agree that there are some imbalances that need to be addressed and there have been several topics around the forums that will hopefully acomplish this if admin decides to implement them (he may have his own ideas, i honestly dont know)

Shooting Star wrote:

Raven wrote:

Shooting Star wrote:Wake up and smell the coffee urogard. Main is already unbalanced. When an account that has less than half the army size of another can mass a defense that is three times his strike in less than half an hour, something is hideously broken. Ascension is the balanced server. You can not just concentrate on one or two stats in ascension and be able to pull off such a feat. Ask all those who have tried.....oh wait! No one has because that would require a certain amount of skill and strategy, something which many of the "nouveau riche" do not possess.

From now on im just gonna laugh at you really.......

Now the serious part.....

Im writing a suggestion and i will post it soon im open for critics then and il expect to get some too

Laugh all you want, but when you realize that having the number one account in ascension actually means something, ie. that you can't be massed by someone ranked 5000 or lower then you will realize the balance that is ascension. Balance means you actually have to be the same level as someone to be able to mass them.

It means something because your account lives on itself now the balance is gone cause ascending doesnt help anymore ................ascending should remain the main power to help your ascended account income should never come close to that [what is happening with you for a while already]

I think unlimited ascensions will be good to add and a limit should be implented also Asc APP shuld get more powerfull by time just a few things ill explain more later

Sleipnir wrote:

NDCDN wrote:Your complaint is only based on your not throwing a lot of resources into defence.

This is actually one of the biggest problems of ascended. Everyone is turtling. I just tried to do some farming, which was pretty futile. I have a top 40 strike. If I go find someone with a bit of DMU out, I have to look a couple pages down in the rankings. So I hit 3 people. I got stopped by one because of the $%^&* rank modifier, so only 2 got through. After paying for all my repairs, I was left with a whopping 128M DMU. There needs to be some balancing work.

-Fix the raiding issue -> defenses won't need to be so crazy high
-Fix the covert visibility ratio's -> people will spy more and attack more
-Reduce rank modifier effects -> make attacking a bit down the ranks worthwhile.

Besides those points, I really like ascended.

Its not worth it mate, I've tried farming with a top 10 strike and ended up making a loss sometimes...

You don't need that high of a strike to get good hits. Just now, I made about 400 million off of a 1.8 billion strike. You just have to look.

vinny d wrote:You don't need that high of a strike to get good hits. Just now, I made about 400 million off of a 1.8 billion strike. You just have to look.

That's 20% of my per turn income. 400million wouldn't help me much.

Well what I meant was, you do not need a huge strike to get dmu. You could get some with 1 attack weapon.

Farming in your case Hen would probably be not necessary.

Look farming and raiding are all well and good, but as many of you farmers and raiders out there have learned, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword. The key in ascension is to try and stay below the radar and build until it becomes problematic to stop you. Frankly, it is useless for me to farm or raid as I make more per turn in planets and income than most people on the server make per day. As far as becoming self-sufficient in ascension, I am telling you that anybody could have done what I did, and some of you could have done it before me or at least at the same time as me. Now, for whatever reasons you had, you chose not to do it. However, I do believe that I have shown that my way was the superior way to success in the ascension server. With the turn limits, farming and raiding are not a long-term key to success in this server.

Shooting Star wrote:With the turn limits, farming and raiding are not a long-term key to success in this server.

No, but wouldn't it be nice if there was a point to attacking, besides futile attempts to descend someone? Statbuilderwars isn't exactly the most exciting concept IMHO.