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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:54 am
by Hells__Angel
Sounds bad, glad I didnt read.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:04 am
by Nigatsu_Aka
The Reaperman wrote:OMG - that whole thread is a discgrace and should be deleted from the forum :evil:

Details of the suspicious activity should be emailed to GAMEMOD immediately for further investigation and all who took part in that 10 page tirade should be banned from these foryums forever :evil: :evil:


Why should i be banned? Because i had the courage to deconspire some cheaters?

Indeed, that thread shouldn`t be able to be read by anyone until the admin fixes that bug... i don`t want to give ideeas to anyone...

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:19 am
by Reaperman
Nigatsu_Aka wrote:
The Reaperman wrote:OMG - that whole thread is a discgrace and should be deleted from the forum :evil:

Details of the suspicious activity should be emailed to GAMEMOD immediately for further investigation and all who took part in that 10 page tirade should be banned from these foryums forever :evil: :evil:


Why should i be banned? Because i had the courage to deconspire some cheaters?

Indeed, that thread shouldn`t be able to be read by anyone until the admin fixes that bug... i don`t want to give ideeas to anyone...


Sorry dude, I shoudl rephrase that :P

Those that had a constant string of <Modded> and <Removed> in their posts shoul be permanantly banned. :-D

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:31 am
by S T I
This phase poped into my head :D

Make hay while the sun shines

but somehow it got distorted to this

Make Naq while the war rages

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:33 am
by Grand Admiral Martin
Wirewraith wrote:That thread is now closed and Phew is getting banned, apparently.
On a related note, I am all for the traders guild idea, I assume by the reminiscent tone that there used to be one? Is there still one? If there isn't, I believe it should be done, on one side to combat the rising uu prices, and on another to provide an actual safe and trustworthy group of traders for the general public.


im not sure about a naq-uu guild but next week i will begin working on a cash-uu/naq guild.


i did some deals with these accounts, i see alot of delete or banned in logs now.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:44 am
by High Empty
S T I that's bugs been around for away, but it definily would explain the run away uu prices, and attack turns prices.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:46 am
by Brythalious
Wow, I think that was the worst thread I have ever seen...

I am not sure the Warlords swear that much on our threads and I allow it...

Madness.

Is it only those three involved or are there more people involved that we should avoid.. Can someone PM me the details or something I can at least post up to beware on our own Trader forums since we keep our own list of people we have dealt with and would recommend.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:23 am
by Raven
so any ideas of how this will get solved if he turns out to be a cheat?

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:36 am
by reborn
everyone that got naq from him removed weather that b u bought turns and raided, bought uu or bought spy lvls, or the last one pasted it onto friends and they bought spy lvls, going to b fun to c what happens, if people r selling vast amounts of uu to one person and cant c what might b going on , with the fact of his army size couldnt hold that much naq then u either knew or just didnt care imo. u might come and say well he was buying naq with $$ to buy the uu and then sell that for $$, just think about that for a second, very possible but who wants to make a loss?


this happened before when people got bugged naq dont c y it aint going to happen again

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:52 am
by Grand Admiral Martin
it will be rally unfair if all of us get punished for their cheating. and kind of double standard. lose your goods to scammer stuff, tough luck. but you happened to buy of one, sorry we're stripping your account.

ban those that cheated leave everyone else alone.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:59 am
by Nigatsu_Aka
Patrick wrote:it will be rally unfair if all of us get punished for their cheating. and kind of double standard. lose your goods to scammer stuff, tough luck. but you happened to buy of one, sorry we're stripping your account.

ban those that cheated leave everyone else alone.


Nope... the goods that were gained illegaly should be removed and to the players who traded with them to be returned the goods traded. It`s not theyr fault entirely... sometimes cheats are very hard to be discovered and these, judging by their ID were using illegal ways of getting naq for at least 3-4 months (i would like admin to also check the ascended accounts of those suspected of cheating, for example phx, had when i descended him had arround 4mil APPs.... that is huge)

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:35 am
by geisha
well you might look at it like this: if I buy a car and it turns out to be stolen, the police will take it off me whether I knew it was stolen or not. And they will not refund me either...

I'd like to remind everyone of this game rule:

6) Using bugs or exploits of any kind, or knowing of and not reporting bugs or exploits, is illegal.

And of this note here which you can read on the market page:

Note: This functionality was added because of many many many reports of 'scamming' on trades. Goods promised, not delivered. Payments sent, later canceled. Promises of future actions never taken, and so on. ALL official trades are made WITHIN the game. If you make trades outside of this market, the game administration takes NO responsibility for the results. All trades outside of this market are now considered 'black market' trades, and are protected by nothing - you open yourself up to the above mentioned scams that some people work very hard to lure other players into. Please use your judgement, and - if you take a risk and try to trade outside the game - be prepared to lose everything and accept it.

Even though the above is talking about scams I think it also applies to trading with "fishy" accounts. And I find it hard to believe someone wouldn't find it suspicious if a noob-account without any stats was buying large amounts of UU for large amounts of Naq every day without growing...

So yes, use your judgment. And I don't see why the game administration should let resources in the game that have artificially been generated by exploiting bugs.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:41 am
by Nigatsu_Aka
geisha wrote:So yes, use your judgment. And I don't see why the game administration should let resources in the game that have artificially been generated by exploiting bugs.


This is exactly my thought... The artificial resources MUST be removed on ALL accounts.
Thank you for posting those quotes. :)

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:46 am
by Grand Admiral Martin
One of the accounts had 10mil army and the other guy had "buying naq with $" on his msn, so to me that explained where the moeny was coming from.

Good point about police, but if i was robbed wouldnt the police help me? this game doesnt. therefore shouldnt go by rl rules unless its going to be equal and repay victims of scammers.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:49 am
by geisha
Patrick wrote:Good point about police, but if i was robbed wouldnt the police help me? this game doesnt. therefore shouldnt go by rl rules unless its going to be equal and repay victims of scammers.


geisha wrote:well you might look at it like this: if I buy a car and it turns out to be stolen, the police will take it off me whether I knew it was stolen or not. And they will not refund me either...


;) :lol: