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I have no problem with the update. It puts an end to the 30k raw UP/550k total UP person but I would say most of the smaller players felt it very little. I think it will make you have to work on your base account a bit more. No big deal.

I would guess this hit the bigger players harder since they had the resources to build and put defenses on the planets to get them larger. Your UP has always been your most important stat. This just makes that point more.

FunEFarm wrote:I have no problem with the update. It puts an end to the 30k raw UP/550k total UP person but I would say most of the smaller players felt it very little. I think it will make you have to work on your base account a bit more. No big deal.

I would guess this hit the bigger players harder since they had the resources to build and put defenses on the planets to get them larger. Your UP has always been your most important stat. This just makes that point more.

wow, couldn´t have said it better

RangerPst wrote:for most of u with the attitude that it is a good enhancement oh lets see u have been playing how long 2yrs another a yr oh well huh u got ur army just where u want it basically u, with this have just locked all the smaller ppl from ever getting to ur level, so as u keep getting bigger and bigger we keep struggling to stay alive. not one have u have taken this from our perpective. Basically unless something is done, I am done you guys enjoy the game i think i will go buy a chess board and teach my kids how to play or i know maybe i will take up needlepoint for my money contributitions to this game and server just ended

UP isnt the only way to grow - and the bigger players have bigger ones anyway.

If you want to grow big and catch up to the already big then your gonna have to farm and raid your butt off - UP will never do it for you alone.



~Zekk~ - plus, ive been playing for 2 years and im not really a big player anyway - armysize wise anyway. and honestly, this update will effect them far more then you. as FunEFarm said.

of the Republic of china's army. But i was planning on ascending and when i do and start of with my raw UP that means my 800bil naq (invested) planet will be putting out a whole 500 units per day on a 1k base production and that is on a planet that has a production capability of over 12k per day

Well like most stated UP planets are good now.

cus if u got like 3 RAW up and 10 planets with 10K UP well u would have 100k total witch isn't that logic ...

this will force people to actually work on their RAW ups , and will make the smaller ones harder to grow and acsend with high costs of Naq .

but it also makes smaller ones active with raiding and do something to grow . So I personal think this is an effect towards players with small Raw UPS

RangerPst wrote:of the Republic of china's army. But i was planning on ascending and when i do and start of with my raw UP that means my 800bil naq (invested) planet will be putting out a whole 500 units per day on a 1k base production and that is on a planet that has a production capability of over 12k per day

then you OBVIOUSLY didn't read the update properly. "Or one half of the additional up factories, whichever is larger."

Its really not hard, especially for most of the smaller guys complaining
with UP planet of 10k max? maybe 20k for bigger guys

Sort it out and get 40k raw UP
Sell some UU to help.
Easy fix

DUDEY wrote:Its really not hard, especially for most of the smaller guys complaining
with UP planet of 10k max? maybe 20k for bigger guys

Sort it out and get 40k raw UP
Sell some UU to help.
Easy fix

Agreed , RAW is alway's the best invest u can do into ur account no matter what .

but if ur thinking about acsension u better keep it below 20k/day (raw)
anyway it's a good update.

50% is fair like all the other planets

ranger that was a big waste of naq. you have less than 3 mill army and you spent all that on a planet. This upgrade is fine id say, im one of the so called little guys only 4mill+ and iv never rellied on planets. i played since there was no planets and it was all raw. Iv reset and raided my ass off and building my UP to about 34K a day. No point in UP planets unless you are up over a certain army size or are 2 lazy to raid much. The naq invested there is much better spent on AT for raiding or Raw UP especially if you are small and cant afford to waste a fortune on a UP planet That gernerally ends up getting nicked. Sorry if i rambled on a bit there.

For a skilled and active farmer 28trill would take at the most, a month. Thats 1 month worth of hard work to get a UP of 500k a day, or 3.5mill a week. One month worth of work - and the next month would bring in 14mill uu effortlessly.

THAT, is way to easy.

Now its going to be much harder, as it should be.



~Zekk~

ROFL .. 1 month? .. If you are lucky, you might be able to farm 300-500bil per day and thats with pissing off the big guys, also your supers and merc losses will be big, around 40-60k per day give or take, because to get the big hits you need 400bil attack or more.

So lets say you farm 300bil per day, then it will take you 93,5 days
If you farm 500bil naq per day, then it will take you 56 days..

28tril naq in 1 month (lets say 30 days) means you have to farm 933bil naq per day and thats impossible.

Theres good days and theres bad days when it comes to farming

I could do 1trill in 1 day

with income and farming

but i couldnt keep it up for a whole month

it would take me around 6-7weeks
with income and farming

DUDEY wrote:I could do 1trill in 1 day

with income and farming

but i couldnt keep it up for a whole month

it would take me around 6-7weeks
with income and farming

Yeah with income it's "possible" but you have to get lucky, theres not that many good farms out there ..

When the bank overflow update came out, I farmed about 600bil Naq in one day, thats the highest I've ever done outside of war and I was online browsing through the ranks for hours and hours..

Some big players are more inactive than others and those are the players that end up on your farming list because they generate a lot of Naq and by
staying online farming for hours every day, your chances of getting massed increase drastically

zaphor RangerPst 120,000,000,000 Naquadah 200,000 Untrained 07:51 Completed.
zaphor RangerPst 120,000,000,000 Naquadah 200,000 Untrained 07:45 Completed.
RangerPst xtreme192 180,000 Untrained 5,000 Turns May 20, 2007 Completed.
Stormbringer RangerPst 4,000 Turns 164,000 Untrained May 20, 2007 Completed.
RangerPst thorslittleworld 26,600 Untrained 700 Turns May 20, 2007 Completed.
RangerPst xtreme192 16,000 Untrained 400 Turns May 20, 2007 Completed.
zaphor RangerPst 90,000,000,000 Naquadah 150,000 Untrained May 20, 2007 Completed.
RangerPst xtreme192 51,000 Untrained 1,400 Turns May 18, 2007 Completed.


Here are my trade logs, I spy them and my officer hits them and vice/versa i am not afraid to raid, but the value of the Naq. just dropped and the value of the UU just went thru the roof so anyone that is actually getting away with muti-ing is no longer gonna be leaving any uu out so raiding will have just come to an end. First if we knew this was coming yes I would not have invested that wasted naq. i just spent. and i would have placed it in other places but now my income means even on critical realm alert i will have over 1.2 bil sitting out. For u guys that have huge defenses i guess that is alright but for the guy that has a job i mean u leave home and go to work for 8hrs. somewhere there is now no way of protecting yourself. We can talk this till we all turn blue in the face, but basically this has just killed any and all chances of the small guy ever getting big and just insured the big guys of always staying where they are at.

your trade logs are not important
what you got a couple of 14k UP planets.

I will cost you around 300bill to get your raw up to cope with that (Sorry ive been spying you :p)

sell 500k uu
As its mostly a waste of naq to build UP planets at your size

bamse wrote:

For a skilled and active farmer 28trill would take at the most, a month. Thats 1 month worth of hard work to get a UP of 500k a day, or 3.5mill a week. One month worth of work - and the next month would bring in 14mill uu effortlessly.

THAT, is way to easy.

Now its going to be much harder, as it should be.



~Zekk~

ROFL .. 1 month? .. If you are lucky, you might be able to farm 300-500bil per day and thats with pissing off the big guys, also your supers and merc losses will be big, around 40-60k per day give or take, because to get the big hits you need 400bil attack or more.

So lets say you farm 300bil per day, then it will take you 93,5 days
If you farm 500bil naq per day, then it will take you 56 days..

28tril naq in 1 month (lets say 30 days) means you have to farm 933bil naq per day and thats impossible.

Theres good days and theres bad days when it comes to farming

actually i can do 2trill a day easily. 4trill if i go "pissing off the big guys". and 50-60k per day? i was loseing 2 and 4 mill a day, all mercs though.

so sorry if im better at farming then you...



~Zekk~