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Re: Here I go again

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:47 am
by kvarga
I remember now. There was a deleted "Hungarian Alliance". The original one. After the incident of kispunye (he farmed a cheater once) we had to transfer all players to a new HA. The players in that non exist Hungarian Alliance have not logged in since then. Alliance id: 9656 "No Alliance Found".
Did you think of them?

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:02 am
by Sphinx42
Lol. Well, MALP (already reported) is apparently one of the HA inactives (although that's not of much importance for me... users named MALP1 and MALP2, on the other hand...). The others... eh, I'll just make a list of IDs and send them to you, unless they all disappear by then.
Now think of adminMark and stick to PM-ing (I promise to stay polite, check my spelling and don't bring up soccer, politics or weather forecast) :-D

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:38 pm
by formerly adminMark
Hello Luck Starr,

Case 1 Banned 4 accounts
Case 2 Banned these 3 plus 1 more
Case 3 Banned 2 accounts
Case 4 Banned 2 accounts
Case 5 no evidence of multi activity
Case 6 no evidence of multi activity

thanks again for the tips Lucky Star

adminMark


Lucky Starr wrote:A few more cases, most are probably inactive for a long time, but I'm posting them all the same.

1. Not very sure about this one, but better checked out:
Suspects: Foxtrot_095 (ID 1917318), Prometheus_095 (ID 1919995), Maelstrom_095 (ID 1919996)
Reasons: similar names, fairly new IDs
Collaterals: one other member of the same alliance, tazystar2000 (ID 1919478)

2. {also read Note below} All three are fairly new (but apparently inactive) accounts, first one's member of an inexistent alliance:
Suspects: MALP (ID 1915892), MALP1 (ID 1918385), MALP2 (ID 1918386)
Reasons: names, IDs, deleted alliance (?)
Collaterals: none found

3. Probably the usual inactive and unimaginative multi:
Suspects: b1gr3d (ID 1915879), b1gr3d3 (ID 1916176)
Reasons: nothing more than hits the eye... hits it quite hard
Collaterals: none

4. Could be just friends using similar names... but, since when do I buy that...
Suspects: betovizuet (ID 1909785), DRbetovizuet (ID 1913793)
Reasons: obviously, their names; new IDs (there seem to be more and more newbie multis)
Collaterals: no commander(s)/officers/alliance(s)

5. Can't believe there are so many trying it...
Suspects: berbatov (ID 103653), berbatov2 (ID 1913885)
Reasons: acute lack of imagination on their behalf
Collaterals: none

6. Adding one more, because of its considerable age:
Suspects: kammo|PyRo (ID 17447), kammo_pyro (ID 17448)
Reasons: the names are a reason; consecutive IDs make it all the more probable
Collaterals: none

Note
I'll probably be back next week, with a more complicated (for me) issue I like to call 'The Hungarian plot' (no offense whatsoever intended to [AG]s, members of Hungarian Command or other veteran players born in Hungary) concerning a massive number of inactive accounts in the 60k+ area, unless it is solved by adminMark due to some people's obvious stupidity (see 2. and maybe others on the list as well) - in which case, I would appreciate knowing it so I can take some credit :-D

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:24 am
by Sphinx42
Still here :D
Got a few ones, the usual stuff; still working on that investigation I mentioned, but RL has to come first :roll:

1. Pretty obvious, I'd say...
Suspects: ncmct (ID 1913528), ncmcttt (ID 1913530)
Reasons: as usual, names and IDs
Collaterals: none

2. Could be connected to my current investigation, then again I'm not that lucky...
Suspects: The Balogh series (IDs 1913954, 1914425, 1914436, 1914442, 1916292)
Reasons: similar names (especially 2 of them, almost identical), pretty close IDs, same name for a planet on 2 different accounts
Collaterals: one of them has a CO, nightwolf226 (ID 1913683) - as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with the multi

3. An older one I had to look up...
Suspects: meaningless series (IDs 1912045, 1912047, 1912048, 1912050, 1912059, possibly more)
Reasons: accounts with long, meaningless names and close IDs, probably created to serve as planet farms
Collaterals: none found

Will be back the next few days ;)

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:56 pm
by Sphinx42
Lucky Starr wrote:Still here :D
Got a few ones, the usual stuff; still working on that investigation I mentioned, but RL has to come first :roll:

1. Pretty obvious, I'd say...
Suspects: ncmct (ID 1913528), ncmcttt (ID 1913530)
Reasons: as usual, names and IDs
Collaterals: none

2. Could be connected to my current investigation, then again I'm not that lucky...
Suspects: The Balogh series (IDs 1913954, 1914425, 1914436, 1914442, 1916292)
Reasons: similar names (especially 2 of them, almost identical), pretty close IDs, same name for a planet on 2 different accounts
Collaterals: one of them has a CO, nightwolf226 (ID 1913683) - as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with the multi

3. An older one I had to look up...
Suspects: meaningless series (IDs 1912045, 1912047, 1912048, 1912050, 1912059, possibly more)
Reasons: accounts with long, meaningless names and close IDs, probably created to serve as planet farms
Collaterals: none found

Will be back the next few days ;)


^ Those... and some more IDs to be checked out. I have to admit I'm not very sure about them, it's somewhat difficult to believe someone would waste time for at least several days in a row to create more and more accounts for no reason, but who am I to judge the limits of human stupidity? And the fact is the accounts listed below are all inactive accounts (65k+ ranks) with Hungarian names (in most cases the origin is fairly obvious for anyone speaking Hungarian) with close IDs (created in a few days' time). If I'm mistaken and this is just a wild goose chase (I don't think it is, otherwise I wouldn't have posted), I'd like to apologize for wasting an admin's time... if not, I've a feeling there'll be quite a few multi accounts to be deleted.

So, here's the list (part of it):
1913661, 1913668, 1913688, 1913695, 1913716, 1913722, 1913725, 1913729, 1913732, 1913748, 1913753, 1913783, 1913797, 1913801, 1913808, 1913834, 1913880, 1913891, 1913945, 1913948, 1913959, 1913972, 1914069, 1914100, 1914103, 1914113... and so on, the list is even longer and there are also some active players among my suspects, but this should do it. If my theory is correct, anyway. If the entire list is needed, I'll be happy to post it here.

Thanx in advance.

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:21 am
by Ancient WOLF
Hi, nightwolf226 here :D

The asgard-raced account which you were talking about is no longer my officer, as far as I know all of them are inactive (Robi didn't play too much before either, his brother used to log in for him sometimes).

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:22 pm
by formerly adminMark
Hello Lucky Starr,

Case 1 banned both acounts.

Case 2 banned these 5 and found 1 more

Case 3 under investigation

AdminMark


Lucky Starr wrote:
Lucky Starr wrote:Still here :D
Got a few ones, the usual stuff; still working on that investigation I mentioned, but RL has to come first :roll:

1. Pretty obvious, I'd say...
Suspects: ncmct (ID 1913528), ncmcttt (ID 1913530)
Reasons: as usual, names and IDs
Collaterals: none

2. Could be connected to my current investigation, then again I'm not that lucky...
Suspects: The Balogh series (IDs 1913954, 1914425, 1914436, 1914442, 1916292)
Reasons: similar names (especially 2 of them, almost identical), pretty close IDs, same name for a planet on 2 different accounts
Collaterals: one of them has a CO, nightwolf226 (ID 1913683) - as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with the multi

3. An older one I had to look up...
Suspects: meaningless series (IDs 1912045, 1912047, 1912048, 1912050, 1912059, possibly more)
Reasons: accounts with long, meaningless names and close IDs, probably created to serve as planet farms
Collaterals: none found

Will be back the next few days ;)


^ Those... and some more IDs to be checked out. I have to admit I'm not very sure about them, it's somewhat difficult to believe someone would waste time for at least several days in a row to create more and more accounts for no reason, but who am I to judge the limits of human stupidity? And the fact is the accounts listed below are all inactive accounts (65k+ ranks) with Hungarian names (in most cases the origin is fairly obvious for anyone speaking Hungarian) with close IDs (created in a few days' time). If I'm mistaken and this is just a wild goose chase (I don't think it is, otherwise I wouldn't have posted), I'd like to apologize for wasting an admin's time... if not, I've a feeling there'll be quite a few multi accounts to be deleted.

So, here's the list (part of it):
1913661, 1913668, 1913688, 1913695, 1913716, 1913722, 1913725, 1913729, 1913732, 1913748, 1913753, 1913783, 1913797, 1913801, 1913808, 1913834, 1913880, 1913891, 1913945, 1913948, 1913959, 1913972, 1914069, 1914100, 1914103, 1914113... and so on, the list is even longer and there are also some active players among my suspects, but this should do it. If my theory is correct, anyway. If the entire list is needed, I'll be happy to post it here.

Thanx in advance.

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:01 am
by Blackburn
Good work lucky starr and adminmark!!

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:34 pm
by Sphinx42
Hi adminMark, have you by any chance discovered something about this?
Lucky Starr wrote:[...] some more IDs to be checked out. I have to admit I'm not very sure about them, it's somewhat difficult to believe someone would waste time for at least several days in a row to create more and more accounts for no reason, but who am I to judge the limits of human stupidity? And the fact is the accounts listed below are all inactive accounts (65k+ ranks) with Hungarian names (in most cases the origin is fairly obvious for anyone speaking Hungarian) with close IDs (created in a few days' time). If I'm mistaken and this is just a wild goose chase (I don't think it is, otherwise I wouldn't have posted), I'd like to apologize for wasting an admin's time... if not, I've a feeling there'll be quite a few multi accounts to be deleted.

So, here's the list (part of it):
1913661, 1913668, 1913688, 1913695, 1913716, 1913722, 1913725, 1913729, 1913732, 1913748, 1913753, 1913783, 1913797, 1913801, 1913808, 1913834, 1913880, 1913891, 1913945, 1913948, 1913959, 1913972, 1914069, 1914100, 1914103, 1914113... and so on, the list is even longer and there are also some active players among my suspects, but this should do it. If my theory is correct, anyway. If the entire list is needed, I'll be happy to post it here.

Thanx in advance.


I'll be posting more of my findings this week, if all goes well; I'd just love to see this solved, whether I am proven wrong or not.
Cheers and keep up the good work :)

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:03 am
by Tyber Zann
sgw's has it's very own community policeman :-D

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:54 pm
by formerly adminMark
Lucky Starr,

I thought I had sent you a PM about this but I guess not.

Please PM me the whole list. I checked out the ones below but don't see any suspicious activity. Maybe with a greater number of ids a pattern will show up.

adminMark



Lucky Starr wrote:Hi adminMark, have you by any chance discovered something about this?
Lucky Starr wrote:[...] some more IDs to be checked out. I have to admit I'm not very sure about them, it's somewhat difficult to believe someone would waste time for at least several days in a row to create more and more accounts for no reason, but who am I to judge the limits of human stupidity? And the fact is the accounts listed below are all inactive accounts (65k+ ranks) with Hungarian names (in most cases the origin is fairly obvious for anyone speaking Hungarian) with close IDs (created in a few days' time). If I'm mistaken and this is just a wild goose chase (I don't think it is, otherwise I wouldn't have posted), I'd like to apologize for wasting an admin's time... if not, I've a feeling there'll be quite a few multi accounts to be deleted.

So, here's the list (part of it):
1913661, 1913668, 1913688, 1913695, 1913716, 1913722, 1913725, 1913729, 1913732, 1913748, 1913753, 1913783, 1913797, 1913801, 1913808, 1913834, 1913880, 1913891, 1913945, 1913948, 1913959, 1913972, 1914069, 1914100, 1914103, 1914113... and so on, the list is even longer and there are also some active players among my suspects, but this should do it. If my theory is correct, anyway. If the entire list is needed, I'll be happy to post it here.

Thanx in advance.


I'll be posting more of my findings this week, if all goes well; I'd just love to see this solved, whether I am proven wrong or not.
Cheers and keep up the good work :)

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:22 am
by Sphinx42
Never got your reply... this has happened before, maybe the board is playing tricks on me :roll: Anyway, PM sent - and more bannable accounts to be posted here this weekend, if all goes well :)

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:58 am
by Tyber Zann
I know this is random. But lucky starr are you either:

1. Very bored?
2. Have time to spare and nothing else to do?
3. Tickling your nose up admins bum?

Just curious at your community service :-D (as it is a service cleaning out the multi's)

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:02 am
by Sphinx42
Sometimes 2., occasionally 1. :P
Am I to be blamed for other people's stupidity? :-D

Re: Here I go again

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:15 am
by BenjaminMS
No, but it's something being frowned upon. Nice catches, but how much time do you have to spend :?