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Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:52 am
by [SGC_ReplicĂ…tors]
wohoo now the benefits come
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:34 am
by Mukasa
so ur tellin me u don't lose ur MS anymore? wow..great update
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:58 pm
by Turkey
Why though? Don't you wanna know why? It's just made ascending a whole lot easier because you dont have to rebuild your MS each time. If we get to keep MS after ascending why dont we get to keep every other stat? What makes MS so special?
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:10 pm
by Munchy
Probably because with MS's you didn't get APP for most of the cost of the ship(slots). With every other stat you get APP in some equivalence.(not all equal, but still)
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:13 pm
by Turkey
Surely the amount of APP that MS's provide should have been increased instead then.
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:15 pm
by Manetheren
Well I think part of the goal is to motivate people to ascend again. If you spend 10-20 tril(or more) on a mothership then how likely are you to ascend again if you lose it all?
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:17 pm
by Turkey
And why would admin want to encourage ppl to ascend again? I know he raised the cap to 20, but there is still a cap and I think he would have made the cap alot higher if he wanted ppl to ascend lots more.
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:20 pm
by Munchy
Turkey wrote:Surely the amount of APP that MS's provide should have been increased instead then.
It was brought up on chats many times. He really didn't want to do that for whatever reason. And Manetheren has a good point aswell. Right now Forum is focusing alot on ascension, trying to get its activity level up and whatnot through updates and balance. By allowing people to keep their ships, he encourages more people to ascend who wouldn't normally, thus possibly increasing the activity level on the ascension server...
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:22 pm
by Turkey
Well if that is the case then I understand why forum would do this.
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:33 pm
by Darmo
This is improving ascension and the cost of main, and in the end will destroy both games
we are gonna get an extreme increase in accounts which just have a 'killer' ms. accounts where you can not destroy them as they JUST have a ms. and as you can send ur ms out all the time, we are giving permission for potentially invincible weapons.
Though all this was able to be done before, though the 100% provides an incentive, as now when u ascend, its still invincible. this also potentially removes the need for any strike (slight strike for stealing naq). Which means defence can also be written off. All u need it a ms.
I know im exaggerating, but this is the situation at the limits.
as for the idea it will get more people playing ascension, but less people will play main, so less new people will bother continuing as they just get pummelled by ultimate weapons (ms) which they cant do anything against, and so there will be no new flow into main or ascension
Please think carefully and reconsider
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:34 pm
by Milenko
bsm wrote:man, wish this was the case 3 weeks ago when I ascended...
Same here
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:38 pm
by Turkey
Omrad wrote:This is improving ascension and the cost of main, and in the end will destroy both games
we are gonna get an extreme increase in accounts which just have a 'killer' ms. accounts where you can not destroy them as they JUST have a ms. and as you can send ur ms out all the time, we are giving permission for potentially invincible weapons.
Though all this was able to be done before, though the 100% provides an incentive, as now when u ascend, its still invincible. this also potentially removes the need for any strike (slight strike for stealing naq). Which means defence can also be written off. All u need it a ms.
I know im exaggerating, but this is the situation at the limits.
as for the idea it will get more people playing ascension, but less people will play main, so less new people will bother continuing as they just get pummelled by ultimate weapons (ms) which they cant do anything against, and so there will be no new flow into main or ascension
Please think carefully and reconsider
You realise that a MS will only power add to your ground troops which equals your raw stat?
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:40 pm
by Space2050
Wish this was the case a week ago, lol.
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:43 pm
by Darmo
I feel like a turkey
lol
thanks for correcting me
i still believe my point is valid to an extent
Re: Mothership vs Ascension
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:20 am
by Antius
to an extent yes. but again no...compare it to planet defs. And how fleets get exponentially bigger in cost but fleet cost stays the same. If you complain about one, at least complain about the other.. .but its fine the way it is now. Amazing update Admin