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Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:01 am
by Blackburn
Nice idea admin!
I agree with 3-1
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:59 am
by renegadze
3-1 still seems a little high......come on we want something that actually lets us combat the stat builders during at war who throw 10mil units into AC.........can't see me wasting 30 mil units to kill them
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:10 am
by Sadistic Angel
dont forget about the ac lvls, it shood change with what level they have.
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:41 am
by Morphic
good point about the AC level, does this have any effect? As for the number 5:1 is fine as the lifers are a broken people who are going after trained spy killers. Some will take advantage of this some won't. But for an unblockable hit, it has to be costly.
My one worry is will this transform into a type of ascension attack where our military units will be vulerable
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:44 am
by samson1111
maybe there should be a level for killing the ACers.
Something like a AC killing level for lifers

1st level-> ratio 1:5
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6th level-> ratio 1:4,5
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11th level-> ratio 1:4
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21st level-> ratio 1:3
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31st level-> ratio 1:2
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:02 am
by The Oncoming Storm
This is a good idea that needs more thought. Certainly the cost in lifers must be affected by the level of the AC troops.
Thus bring in training levels for lifers and if for example your AC is level 20 and your lifers are level 20 then you have a fixed rate of 3 lifers equal 1 AC. The cost become cheaper/expensive depending on how different your levels are.
Make the Lifer levels cost the same as the covert levels and then it should look like a workable update.
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:38 am
by nimious
why are you all complaining about rate?
i think that this update is more way to kill your lifers(big guys have problems with them

) than to kill ac
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:25 am
by Tanith
I think a 5:1 ratio is good, any lower than that and it is too easy for the "big guys" to go around killing all the ACers (as they can't be stopped at all while they do it)
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:03 pm
by [SGC_ReplicÅtors]
100:1

Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:47 pm
by Zeratul
it is not meant to be a tactic used all the time... that is why Forum has set it to 5:1... it is supposed to be expensive...
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:52 pm
by Orpheus
anti covert levels are good in use against coverts (levels)
but as miners are on suicide mission, they do not need any traininglevels, common guys, they have been working in your mines for i don't know howlong...
give them the honor to die a good death
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:16 pm
by Rich™
3
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:22 pm
by Timmy
Orpheus wrote:anti covert levels are good in use against coverts (levels)
but as miners are on suicide mission, they do not need any traininglevels, common guys, they have been working in your mines for i don't know howlong...
give them the honor to die a good death
and because they've been down there so long they are strong men not easily killed so it won't take 5 of my lifers to kill 1 lousy enemy ac unit 1:1 or 2:1 would be a better ratio
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:35 pm
by Antius
Tanith wrote:I think a 5:1 ratio is good, any lower than that and it is too easy for the "big guys" to go around killing all the ACers (as they can't be stopped at all while they do it)
please lol, 3:1 is so stupid that I'd never do it, much less 5:1.
Good concept, I'll never use it.
Re: alternate use for lifers - AC killers...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:25 pm
by SG
Well.. it's somewhat better ratio than that 9:1 I threw in some other 'suggestion' on how to get rid of lifers.
5:1 isnt bad, especially for all those people complaining about how there account is filled 'nothing but lifers'. Now they can shut up and do something about it.
5:1 is good, perhaps.. too good.
As it is, this is just an update targeted at getting rid of lifers. I don't see why most of you are complaining, you can just toss the UU into attack if you want to 'keep them safe'.