worship your ascendid god and boost ascention APP/turn
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Re: worship your ascendid god
ok , so all we need now is more comments and support for this.
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Re: worship your ascendid god
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Re: worship your ascendid god
jreider014 wrote:There needs to be some bonus for those who don't want to force their people to worship them. Something different but equal in power, will get back to this idea.
The bonus for not worshipping is no loss of income in main .
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Re: worship your ascendid god
Draleg wrote:now i was thinking ,
the more UU that are worshipping there ascendid god the more " power " the god has .
So wat if there was a way to " train " UU to do nothing but pray and worship there god , they dont work in the mines they dont fight they dont do anything for your main realm ( mabee they cost naq to have as you need to feed them ) the only thing they do is boost your ascendid account .
Sounds good.
Draleg wrote:Mabee your god uses his extra " praypower " to get more dmu / Ascended Life Force ore mabee even Ascended Power Points .
Should be APP as ascending only gives APP.
Draleg wrote:Its even posible your worshippers pray for so long they go in to a " trance " and die after a while cos they cant wake from the trance and there body dies of hunger. ppl do a lot for there god.
no.
Draleg wrote:So , this is a way for those smaller accounts to boost there ascention and not have to lose all there main account by ascending.
Draleg.
Good reason, but small players doing this can't afford to have UU dying in a trance...unless they are like me and have a huge UP....which many don't...
TC votes yes.
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Re: worship your ascendid god
And I say no. How many can afford it to lose units when they're below 10 mil? Not much, unless you're an insane raider and/or have got a way too big UP

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Re: worship your ascendid god
Well the praying UU dus not need to die it was only one of the ways to go , mabee we can let them automaticly return to the mines ( not as lifers ) after 24 u / 48 u of praying and you need to re-train them every 24 / 48 h if you want them to pray again ( this wil stop ppl training everything in pray UU and have nothing to distroy while taking a break from the game and not going on vacmode )
and yes it should be APP as they cant get stolen.
But as stated in the original post , feel free to ad , comment and adjust.
and yes it should be APP as they cant get stolen.
But as stated in the original post , feel free to ad , comment and adjust.
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Re: worship your ascendid god
having them untrain would be diffucult to code I would think, especially with UU being trained at different time of the day....and would have to be done on the turn change, and they have enough lag as it is.....same time I don't want account that just sit with Pray UU....
We could make Pray UU massable....by other Pray UU....Sort of like AC masses Covert, ones Pray UU masses another, has to over come basic defense first.
Have a seperate attack like Crusade. It functions similiar to that of Ascended being battles, over come the defense followed by the Ascended being attacking another ascended being.
Or better yet....They function sort of as a second defense....have their own weps..actually for simplicity, they have maybe 2-3 weapon types.
Logic being when first defense reaches 0, these guys take over, but being fanatics about their god, they will rush to the defense of their gods physical realm. They are about as effective as mercs and take losses like mercs.
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We could make Pray UU massable....by other Pray UU....Sort of like AC masses Covert, ones Pray UU masses another, has to over come basic defense first.
Have a seperate attack like Crusade. It functions similiar to that of Ascended being battles, over come the defense followed by the Ascended being attacking another ascended being.
Or better yet....They function sort of as a second defense....have their own weps..actually for simplicity, they have maybe 2-3 weapon types.
Logic being when first defense reaches 0, these guys take over, but being fanatics about their god, they will rush to the defense of their gods physical realm. They are about as effective as mercs and take losses like mercs.
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Re: worship your ascendid god ( need input ppl !!! )
this is actually good input , but as many things we may just need to start with the basic " pray UU " and then ask for updates once its implemented as it wil be easyer for admin to see wat the abuse , disadvantage and advanteges are of the update. ( and a lot less scripting all at once. )
its called evolution
Miners turned in to -> miners and lifers
lifers turned in to -> anticovert killers
coverts turned in to -> coverts and anticoverts
worshippers turned in to -> wat ever is needed later on in the game to get balance.
As for untraining them its a derevat ( hope you know wat i mean with that as my expression is limited , a changed but basicly the same ) of the plauge script , but it wont kill them it wil simply retrain them to miners at no cost.
its called evolution
Miners turned in to -> miners and lifers
lifers turned in to -> anticovert killers
coverts turned in to -> coverts and anticoverts
worshippers turned in to -> wat ever is needed later on in the game to get balance.
As for untraining them its a derevat ( hope you know wat i mean with that as my expression is limited , a changed but basicly the same ) of the plauge script , but it wont kill them it wil simply retrain them to miners at no cost.
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Re: worship your ascendid god ( need input ppl !!! )
Whats to stop players from:
Pray UU would be become a dump stat where people would simply dump their UU durring the few days they aren't on PPT, or durring wars to avoid being farmed.
besides my few ideas on Massable....
Pray UU...that name is crap....Prayer Warriors is better... function like miners, Each one Producing a set amount of AP a turn. They even have their own version of lifers, in this case, Called Priests, who lead the worship so to speak, and reached Priest by dedicating their entire life to the god. Now this AP generated, doesn't per say go directly to your ascended account.
You have manually click to send it up, and it needs to cost something to send it AP up there. I'm not sure of a balance way to that yet, but I'll keep thinking on it. Probably some amount of naq related to amount of AP being sent.
Next, AP generated, should be really small....last thing I want to see is players generating 1mil AP a turn and sending it up there. Especially now that Life gained per AP has been greatly increased. I'm thinking small as in 1 mil Prayer Warriors makes 1 AP a turn...if that much.
Maybe...just maybe
have AP stealable.....of course need some form of limitation to prevent big players from stealing AP of smaller players......
have AP tradeable
Am I thinking too much?
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Pray UU would be become a dump stat where people would simply dump their UU durring the few days they aren't on PPT, or durring wars to avoid being farmed.
besides my few ideas on Massable....
Pray UU...that name is crap....Prayer Warriors is better... function like miners, Each one Producing a set amount of AP a turn. They even have their own version of lifers, in this case, Called Priests, who lead the worship so to speak, and reached Priest by dedicating their entire life to the god. Now this AP generated, doesn't per say go directly to your ascended account.
You have manually click to send it up, and it needs to cost something to send it AP up there. I'm not sure of a balance way to that yet, but I'll keep thinking on it. Probably some amount of naq related to amount of AP being sent.
Next, AP generated, should be really small....last thing I want to see is players generating 1mil AP a turn and sending it up there. Especially now that Life gained per AP has been greatly increased. I'm thinking small as in 1 mil Prayer Warriors makes 1 AP a turn...if that much.
Maybe...just maybe
have AP stealable.....of course need some form of limitation to prevent big players from stealing AP of smaller players......
have AP tradeable
Am I thinking too much?
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Re: worship your ascendid god ( need input ppl !!! )
I think your missing the point ,
this was ment for the smaller players ( +25 mil main ) with small ascention accounts to have a way to boost there ascention and not loose everything in main by ascending.
you need a big app boost ( have you seen wat the conversion rate is , come on its a joke )
Now the bigger ascention players wont train millions of UU to pray UU ( and dont start with the name is ugly , its open for discusion
) cos they make billions of DMU every turn and dont need 1000 extra app / turn as its stil not even 1% of wat they make a turn.
And APP can NEVER be stolen , otherwise if i se , lets say you , ascend i wil steal your APP and then you lost EVERYTHING you worked for the last weeks / months.
this was ment for the smaller players ( +25 mil main ) with small ascention accounts to have a way to boost there ascention and not loose everything in main by ascending.
you need a big app boost ( have you seen wat the conversion rate is , come on its a joke )
Now the bigger ascention players wont train millions of UU to pray UU ( and dont start with the name is ugly , its open for discusion
And APP can NEVER be stolen , otherwise if i se , lets say you , ascend i wil steal your APP and then you lost EVERYTHING you worked for the last weeks / months.
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Re: worship your ascendid god ( need input ppl !!! )
I suppose big players would rather have the extra naq income + bank space...
I still say the idea of having them like miners with a lifer version (what I called Priests) is good, that way in war players, big and small, don't have a dump stat that they can put units into to avoid having the mass, at the same time being able to mass. I'm not sure of all the reasons lifers were put into place first (been a long time sense then) but I'm sure they still apply since its still units producing a resource.
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I still like my name Prayer Warriors better though.
I still say the idea of having them like miners with a lifer version (what I called Priests) is good, that way in war players, big and small, don't have a dump stat that they can put units into to avoid having the mass, at the same time being able to mass. I'm not sure of all the reasons lifers were put into place first (been a long time sense then) but I'm sure they still apply since its still units producing a resource.
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I still like my name Prayer Warriors better though.

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Re: worship your ascendid god ( need input ppl !!! )
Well I think all your names are dumb, joking, but I think they should be called some thing different for each race. Some races will want followers and some will just want sections of there armies to help boost APP generation. Lets use scientist for a name(pray UUs).
Well lets see these scientists can generate 1 APP per turn each, under a scientist manager. The scientist manager can only keep track of a max of 500 scientists in his lab. However you can build more labs with more managers, but the price increases drastically per lab/manager.
The APP they build up can not be used till you ascend. So when you ascend you receive a large sum of APP. Now when you ascend you have the option of converting all labs and scientist into APP or leave them alone so they continue research for your next ascension.
The names I think can be chosen between scientists and managers or worshipers and priests. Depending if you want to enslave your people as the Ori wanted or just realize it is a science as the Ancients did.
Well lets see these scientists can generate 1 APP per turn each, under a scientist manager. The scientist manager can only keep track of a max of 500 scientists in his lab. However you can build more labs with more managers, but the price increases drastically per lab/manager.
The APP they build up can not be used till you ascend. So when you ascend you receive a large sum of APP. Now when you ascend you have the option of converting all labs and scientist into APP or leave them alone so they continue research for your next ascension.
The names I think can be chosen between scientists and managers or worshipers and priests. Depending if you want to enslave your people as the Ori wanted or just realize it is a science as the Ancients did.
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Re: worship your ascendid god ( need input ppl !!! )
The reason for these pray UU is you dont need to ascend to boost your ascention account.
I like the " buld labs , tempels thing , but the genirated APP need to go to ascention directly.
I like the " buld labs , tempels thing , but the genirated APP need to go to ascention directly.
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