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Im with the others on this at least a mill if not 2 mill because of how ascension was done, the fact that the middle people are screwed by this update kinda sucks (as explained in macks post so Im not going to repeat what hes already stated).

Admin hows this, if we ascended last a certain amont of time ago, we get a "free" ascension where we get a % of our APP on ascended, say 50%, wthout losing anything on main. Still according to the "max" limit of 5mil. Hows that? Or maybe lose spy level, up, anti level techs like that. Lose weps too, buy keep units and things, because they cannot be replaced. To make it a bit fairer. Then nothing needs to be undone just something else is done over it.

Spoon wrote:Im with the others on this at least a mill if not 2 mill because of how ascension was done, the fact that the middle people are screwed by this update kinda sucks (as explained in macks post so Im not going to repeat what hes already stated).

Might aswell just quote this post as it sums up my opinion on this nicely.

I say, don't make the ascention too hard for new players, the minmun AP to ascend should be at 500k.

EVA wrote:I say, don't make the ascention too hard for new players, the minmun AP to ascend should be at 500k.

You also havent read it properly.

1 Mill sounds fine

just give everybody wot they ascended with last in terms of app
u have opened up the option to ascend more so i dnt see a problem u wanna get more powerfull then ascend again

Sorry for those that read my previous stupid post...

Anyway, I personally think it should depend on the ascension. Maybe keep it at 100k for your first ascension, but let it increase over the ascensions to maybe 500k for LG and then 1-2 mill for AG and above. That way, to actually get the reward, you have to put in the time and effort over multiple ascensions. Would make it slightly more difficult anyway.

Pef wrote:i think the APP bonus should be based to the relative power of the last ascension vs the time frame , meaning if i ascended last time 2 years ago
with 5k UP , thats worth at minimum what a nowadays ascension with 100k UP is.
As this is now , the fact i ascended with 5k UP and lvl 23 covert 2 years ago(which counts as a 100k UP and lvl 29 covert now) , means i get a very small bonus , while players who ascended a month ago get 50 times more.

this would be great i vote u do something like pef is suggesting

O.K this is my view. I did big ascensions with 80k UP hence my 2 million APP I got with this update. (I might add I am just about to ascend again). I have planned to load my ascension account from day 1, my main account as a result is pathetic but I have remained near the Top 100 ascended accounts. If others choose to do smaller ascensions so be it but they should not be rewarded with a 1 million APP bonus for doing nothing. They HAVE to do a larger ascension if they want to reap benefits.

I would do a multiplier based on time since last ascension as I mentioned in other thread.
i.e If I ascended 1 month ago 1.1, 2 months ago 1.4, 3 months ago 1.9. That way the older players do not get punished. However, the cap would remain at 5 million APP. In this way those who loaded their accounts in the past would still get rewards for the hard work those who did small ascensions recently for main bonuses only would not.

I might add that those going for main bonuses only should be allowed to leave the ascension realm with a small penalty and leave it to those who actually want to play this server. Those wishing to play this server should then be able to purchase rewards for the main server ( my consistent view over time I might add )

I do not think a blanket 1 million works. Those who have played ascension for a long time should not be punished, they should be rewarded by a multiplier. This may mean they get more than 1 million.

My ascended ID=484

Nox wrote:

Pef wrote:i think the APP bonus should be based to the relative power of the last ascension vs the time frame , meaning if i ascended last time 2 years ago
with 5k UP , thats worth at minimum what a nowadays ascension with 100k UP is.
As this is now , the fact i ascended with 5k UP and lvl 23 covert 2 years ago(which counts as a 100k UP and lvl 29 covert now) , means i get a very small bonus , while players who ascended a month ago get 50 times more.

this would be great i vote u do something like pef is suggesting

agreed do something like this or keep it as it is now

bump for importance

and for free APP for me

Couzens wrote:

Nox wrote:

Pef wrote:i think the APP bonus should be based to the relative power of the last ascension vs the time frame , meaning if i ascended last time 2 years ago
with 5k UP , thats worth at minimum what a nowadays ascension with 100k UP is.
As this is now , the fact i ascended with 5k UP and lvl 23 covert 2 years ago(which counts as a 100k UP and lvl 29 covert now) , means i get a very small bonus , while players who ascended a month ago get 50 times more.

this would be great i vote u do something like pef is suggesting

agreed do something like this or keep it as it is now

So according to my math, how about this:

1month ago - 5% more
2month ago - 12% more
3month ago - 21% more
4month ago - 33% more
5month ago - 48% more = 1.5x
6month ago - 65% more
7month ago - 84% more
8month ago - 105% more - 2x
9month ago - 128% more
10month ago - 153% more
11month ago - 180% more
12month ago - 209% more - 3x
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18month ago - 425% more - 5x
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24month ago - 713% more - 8x

So ascending 8months ago would give you roughly 2times more, 12months ago would give you roughly 3times your APP up to the limit of 5mil APP, 18months would give you 5x teh APP and 2years ago would give you 8x the APP. If they did crap ascensions that long ago, they still aint guna get a lot for it. This is mainly intended for those guys who did try big ascensions in the past but didnt get all the APP from it. It also kinda accounts for actual playing of the game by offputting the variables on it a slight bit.

See what you think admin, math can be easily chanegd though.

yeah, im with phoenix, its a great idea making it by time of last ascension

~Phoenix~ wrote:

Couzens wrote:

Nox wrote:

Pef wrote:i think the APP bonus should be based to the relative power of the last ascension vs the time frame , meaning if i ascended last time 2 years ago
with 5k UP , thats worth at minimum what a nowadays ascension with 100k UP is.
As this is now , the fact i ascended with 5k UP and lvl 23 covert 2 years ago(which counts as a 100k UP and lvl 29 covert now) , means i get a very small bonus , while players who ascended a month ago get 50 times more.

this would be great i vote u do something like pef is suggesting

agreed do something like this or keep it as it is now

So according to my math, how about this:

1month ago - 5% more
2month ago - 12% more
3month ago - 21% more
4month ago - 33% more
5month ago - 48% more = 1.5x
6month ago - 65% more
7month ago - 84% more
8month ago - 105% more - 2x
9month ago - 128% more
10month ago - 153% more
11month ago - 180% more
12month ago - 209% more - 3x
---
18month ago - 425% more - 5x
---
24month ago - 713% more - 8x

So ascending 8months ago would give you roughly 2times more, 12months ago would give you roughly 3times your APP up to the limit of 5mil APP, 18months would give you 5x teh APP and 2years ago would give you 8x the APP. If they did crap ascensions that long ago, they still aint guna get a lot for it. This is mainly intended for those guys who did try big ascensions in the past but didnt get all the APP from it. It also kinda accounts for actual playing of the game by offputting the variables on it a slight bit.

See what you think admin, math can be easily chanegd though.

Im in favour of the time scaled idea. The game has much more resources available now then it did say a year ago. Ascensions can now easily match or exceed what was a good ascension a year ago.

If anything is to be done, i think this would be a good option to base a compromise on. (time scaled perecentage)

Much fairer than a fixed amount and its capped anyways so no more can be given than 5m