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Re: Debating!
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:48 pm
by smooshable
Maybe we could have a system more like idol? The judges vote and the public votes and it's a combined desision?
Re: Debating!
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:57 pm
by semper
hmmm..yes...but wouldnt that be ever more biased? lol..cos think of how many people are in certain alliances..

unless the public vote counted as one..but like I said..its done by points not votes..ill have a think about it..and see..we might just end up with a simple vote..rather then points..but then that takes out penalties and other things..
Re: Debating!
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:14 pm
by Lord Silent Bob
Although I love the idea, I'm afraid we may be walking into a minefield.
There may be a good number of us who can maintain an intelligent debate but there are also many who will resort to petty arguments, insults and flaming, perhaps we could make it a Usergroup area that way we have some control over who can or cant post there
Re: Debating!
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:48 pm
by Zeratul
the best way to have it, if it is to be a separate section, is one where all can read, but not all can post... maybe have a usergroup that people ask to join, if they want to join the debate....
having the section hidden is not that good idea...
Re: Debating!
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:02 am
by Tyber Zann
well done semper
for judges choose three seperate people of different views. this way bias is spread around a bit

Re: Debating!
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:04 am
by semper
lol come on guys I suggested all these. A forum viewable by the general community, but postable in by group members only.. Punishing pettyness and insults. Minimizing post's so people cant be drawn out into one long argument.
As for the points and everything. WE NEED points..otherwise it takes conduct out of the entire debating system. As you cant penalize people for making mistakes, insulting or other things. So points have to stay unfortunately.
The viewers though have another option before them. In general terms, during a debate, there is a point at which, a member of the audience can stand, placing a piece of paper ontop of their head, and shout out, point of information. This can be a rhetorical question, a general question or fact to hinder or help the person during the debate. The only problem with THAT is that I think the topic could become far to messy. So im doubtful it would be a good idea to include that.
Re: Debating!
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:17 pm
by Almost38
tom twin wrote:well done semper
for judges choose three seperate people of different views. this way bias is spread around a bit

or just have the people who read it vote at the end
Re: Debating!
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:30 pm
by Apadizamek
i'm in.
Re: Debating!
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:35 pm
by Osi
Semper you mentioned that I would be participating, did you notice that I was no longer around? I left like two months ago.
Re: Debating!
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:05 pm
by Obsidian311-
i think your name was put in there as an example of how it would run... those aren't the names of people that are participating.
Re: Debating!
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:14 pm
by mondomadmun
sounds great, i'm in.
i'm not in any alliances in game and i don't know anyone on a personal level so would be happy to be a judge if needed. I did debating in high school too... although that was some time ago now

Re: Debating!
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:27 am
by semper
Osi wrote:Semper you mentioned that I would be participating, did you notice that I was no longer around? I left like two months ago.
was indeed just an example. I just thought of some of the most famous for in-game antics and those who I knew were good at debating and shoved them together into two teams of four.
Re: Debating!
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:45 am
by Come_Forth
I think that we should be pragmatic and just start and see what works and what does not as far as the format goes

Re: Debating!
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:08 am
by semper
well when the 1st november comes round we'll have to see, because both admins made it clear enough they were not to fussed as to make it at this time. So we'll have to see what freespirit takes on it.
Re: Debating!
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:50 am
by Osi
oh ok Appy made it sound like you were saying I was joining...oh well i'm out...again