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Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:42 pm
by killtacular
Raistlin Majere wrote:
Vendetta wrote:Im not welcome? :(


What would be the basis for this comment?


Killtacular wrote:No I would not like you to leave it. But you are the one to say cursing is not a concern. Why change it? Are you now conceding that cursing to get a point across is not needed and it shows a certain respect to think about what a response should be.

Respect is the key. People are the doors. All keys are different but to open each door there is always the right key.


I will put it bluntly. The general perceptions of this community are *modded* up.

This game should be more than threats, while violence is at times necessary, more often than not, you can achieve better results through a civil, diplomatic discussion.


I hope your joking when you say violence is at times necessary. So your saying you should strong arm someone to achieve results? violence should be NEVER needed for anything in life. Especially trying to get your view either being heard or seen.

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:46 pm
by raistlin majere
killtacular wrote:
Raistlin Majere wrote:
Vendetta wrote:Im not welcome? :(


What would be the basis for this comment?


Killtacular wrote:No I would not like you to leave it. But you are the one to say cursing is not a concern. Why change it? Are you now conceding that cursing to get a point across is not needed and it shows a certain respect to think about what a response should be.

Respect is the key. People are the doors. All keys are different but to open each door there is always the right key.


I will put it bluntly. The general perceptions of this community are *modded* up.

This game should be more than threats, while violence is at times necessary, more often than not, you can achieve better results through a civil, diplomatic discussion.


I hope your joking when you say violence is at times necessary. So your saying you should strong arm someone to achieve results? violence should be NEVER needed for anything in life. Especially trying to get your view either being heard or seen.


I do believe I was referring to the fact that, regardless of what we discuss, this is still a "war" game. Nothing will ever change that.

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:51 pm
by killtacular
To my understanding this is about the forums not the game. So my statement still stands.

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:55 pm
by raistlin majere
I just refreshed the page to see this.


"You have been permanently banned from this board.

Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.

A ban has been issued on your IP address."

I wonder why this is?


EDIT: +I'm surprised.+

Also, on profanity.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... rch=Search

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:04 pm
by killtacular
maybe someone pressed the wrong button LOL

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:08 pm
by raistlin majere
killtacular wrote:To my understanding this is about the forums not the game. So my statement still stands.


You are naive if you believe that there is no reason for violence. There are times for it, as there are times for everything.

The typical use for SWAT teams is to use force; and thus, violence; to benefit the good of the whole, over the good of an individual.

killtacular wrote:maybe someone pressed the wrong button LOL
I have yet to administer a forum where it is simple enough to acidentally click a ban button.

The average forum requires the banner to go into administrative settings and manually enter the IP, which, is obviously, intentional.

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:36 pm
by killtacular
Raistlin Majere wrote:
killtacular wrote:To my understanding this is about the forums not the game. So my statement still stands.


You are naive if you believe that there is no reason for violence. There are times for it, as there are times for everything.

The typical use for SWAT teams is to use force; and thus, violence; to benefit the good of the whole, over the good of an individual.

killtacular wrote:maybe someone pressed the wrong button LOL
I have yet to administer a forum where it is simple enough to acidentally click a ban button.


Useing a swat team as an example isn't a very good one. swat teams usually take out the one doing violence to protect the whole. So if the violence wasn't there for example a hostage, bank robbery there would be no need for the swat team. Like I said before respect to one another will straighten all forms of violence , unless your just mentally incapable of understanding what respect is aka being a crazy person..

Its not about mod 1 , mod 2 , admin 1 , admin2 . Or all the mods being from the same alliance. Its about having the decency to show me respect and me having the common courtesy to show you what you've shown me.
You can get along on these forums reguardless of what a person believes to be right or wrong. There is absoultly no reason to be violent with one another because you dont agree. If you really think about it violence should never happen. But there is always that one person you cussed out that day and just things happened to that poor person he thinks he should shoot you dead on sight.

See cussing not necessary. Should be all about respect , thats where your reform comes in.

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:51 pm
by Nuto vixen
Raistlin Majere, did you mean you are banned from the forums you have just brought to light, or a separate forum? :?

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:56 pm
by Vendetta
you said vendetta's arent allowed. or is this like the case in the simpsons? where its no homERS and you are allowed 1 vendetta? :-)

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:32 pm
by raistlin majere
Nuto vixen wrote:Raistlin Majere, did you mean you are banned from the forums you have just brought to light, or a separate forum? :?


The IP I was using came across as banned as I was refreshing this page, on this forum.

Vendetta wrote:you said vendetta's arent allowed. or is this like the case in the simpsons? where its no homERS and you are allowed 1 vendetta?


I was quite certain you were being a smart a**, and I was not mistaken, no ill will towards you, I am quite one myself. But, I am sure you are intelligent enough to take context. That alone should answer your question.

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:53 pm
by Vendetta
Yeah k you dont have to be so serious all the time.

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:44 pm
by raistlin majere
Vendetta wrote:Yeah k you dont have to be so serious all the time.


Well, at one point in time I was a mod. I suppose that is from where my professionalism roots.

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Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:43 pm
by SÅTÅN 666
Raistlin Majere wrote:
Vendetta wrote:Yeah k you dont have to be so serious all the time.


Well, at one point in time I was a mod. I suppose that is from where my professionalism roots.

Pic Related:
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lmao. Funny picture :lol:

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:14 am
by Borek
Raistlin Majere wrote:I will put it bluntly. The general perceptions of this community are *modded* up.

This game should be more than threats, while violence is at times necessary, more often than not, you can achieve better results through a civil, diplomatic discussion.


1st thing:

Who are you to speak of general perceptions? What you mean is you've spoken to a cpl of people who are bitter about something and YOU want things changed. I can assure you the vast majority of the people who play this game are happy enough with how it's being run, especially when you consider there are many other games like this that crash and burn in very short time frames. SGW has been going for as long as it has been because it is ran much more professionally than most other games. Is it perfect? of course not, but it certainly doesn't need some sort of reform group.

If you want to speak to the game staff about issues then go along to the weekly meetings, use these forums or even E-mail. I seriously doubt the game staff are going to go onto your 3rd party web site to talk about their game when they have their own forum to discuss issues on.

2nd the game IS much more than threats and Violence, but that doesn't mean threats and violence don't have their part to play, after all it's a war game.

Lets face it the issues people have with this game generally come into 2 categories:
1: <insert alliance name here> are too powerful and people develop irrational hatred towards them.
2: <insert poster name> got banned for breaking the rules and various friends just won't stop whining about it.

Now nothing can be done about point 1 unless alliances band together and GO TO WAR. OMG, it's a war game, so either you take your beatings like a man, or you whine. Seems to me that there are too many whiners and not enough "men". Nothing you can say or do on your new forum will change this.

Point 2 is based on individuals being unable to comprehend the simple fact that this forum is run by the game staff, for the game community, not for 1 persons Ego. Nothing you can say or do on your forum will get them unbanned, nor change the fact that people who regularly break the rules will get banned.

so basically your new forum seems like a place for people to come and whine whilst having no affect on the game or the official forums, because 99% of the things that you seem to think are "wrong" with the game are down to human nature, which you won't change, ever.

Re: StargateWars Reform Group (SGWRG)

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:58 am
by semper
Raistlin I believe this is what the respect group is for..or at least by extension what it was intended to be.