Solutions for sgw - most logical updates

[Dark Bahamut]

personally i think they shud all be deleted
use the proper means of communication and you will most likely be heard

this wont do anything
and tbh your moaning isnt worth it
moan on msn
not on the forum

can a mod please lock and delete these threads
im sure it will help

[Borek]

Is it just me that still thinks this game is fun and is working fine? Maybe part of the reason the game is "dying" is because we spend all of our time on the forums coming up with reasons why it's dying.

If you have suggestions for the game, in my opinion, they should be in the game suggestion area. How are we to expect the community to get excited about a game when the main section of the forum is just filled with all these threads about how the game is dying? Likewise for attracting new players?

Just my opinion, don't hate me although I'm sure someone will.

Edit: I don't think I have ever said this before, but I agree DB!

I agree, it is fun and working fine, but that doesn't mean things can't be changed. I started a few years back now and the game is completely different then it was back then, but it's still kept the fun factor.

Also a good point from DB about the "game dying" type titles, perhaps Apophis can edit his title to reflect this, lets face it the game is no where near dying, in fact i would say it's going stronger than ever. Probably should be moved to suggestions, but i think Apophis was keen to pull out some suggestions from another thread and preserve them and since that thread was in general he posted it here also...

[semper]

lol... id agree with the locking/deleting. Get rid of these things and put them where they belong..somewhere im sure DB will now add...

*semper cues DB...*

[Legendary Apophis]

i just thank GOD none of these will ever happen lol, you are complete fools to think so.

I wonder what is being a fool to bring back ATs as they were and fixing bugs like MS weapons and 3 damages by 0 defences but oh well

maybe if you guys didnt post a topic about it everyday
if you have a problem or some ideas either post it in suggestions or else say it to admin at the admin meeting

if a new player comes onto the forum to have a look around and sees 5 topics saying "SGW is dieing", "wat can we do", " run for your lives"
wat are they gonna think
stop posting useless threads that wont affect anything and use the proper routes for communication with admin

you guys think you are helping but you are just wasting your time and making the forum look horrible
please stop
thanks

I'm just trying to make decent suggestions after the "sgw is dying": practice after theory, what should really change and what could do it better in answer to sgw is dying topics.

Tok'ra the 10% bank thing is fine.

personally i think they shud all be deleted
use the proper means of communication and you will most likely be heard

this wont do anything
and tbh your moaning isnt worth it
moan on msn
not on the forum

can a mod please lock and delete these threads
im sure it will help

Sure nothing will change then lol!!

And for your info to you all who say I'm moaning and wasting place I give solutions to the problem, and FOR YOUR INFO MOST OF THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY FOR A LONG TIME IN GAME SUGGESTION BUT NOTHING HAPPENS SO...before saying post it in right place, care to look at the right place to see if they not already been suggest for a while and quite much approved by others, but not in the way to enter the game.
So stop saying stop moaning because if there's no moaning here you'll have no topics to read believe me sgw general has always been made for moanings of all sorts related to sgw or its forum!

And to people who moan about me pretendously moaning about the game shouldn't visit this topic because it's NOT PLACE FOR ANY KIND OF MOANING IT IS PLACE FOR SOLUTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS!

That's why I made this topic to cut moaning and bring creating


I know what is game suggestions forum I suggested Motherships I suggested update of race stats I suggested alliance anti-cowards update, and finally commanders update, and I surely forgot alot of other suggestiond I ade there!

[Dark Bahamut]

well i can gaurantee admin reads the suggestions
but he cant implement them all

plus you ever think that some of your suggestions just aren't good

[Legendary Apophis]

well i can gaurantee admin reads the suggestions
but he cant implement them all

plus you ever think that some of your suggestions just aren't good

If they weren't they would be locked (why are there so much locked threads or died threads in this place heh?).

If I recall only bad thing I suggested was to bring pictures in stats page (like in another mmoprg game which disappeared by now, taw if i'm right) it was bad because of bandwith and possible wrong content.

Oh and for the unhappy people of it being not in right place ask a mod to move it to right place and seriously deleting it would be a pretty stupid idea considering my post was made of 95% suggestions 5% comments requesting lol!

[Dark Bahamut]

suggestion topics are left open cos people discuss them and give other ideas
towards the topic so thats why they arent all locked

[Legendary Apophis]

suggestion topics are left open cos people discuss them and give other ideas
towards the topic so thats why they arent all locked

I know...I didn't say otherwise! I just posted it here because apprently it's #1 place for moaners so I thought putting here suggestions to satisfy everyone (not eternal unsatisfied ones of course lmao) was the right thing?
On the waahhaa waahhaa place coming with fresh solving of all problems cuts the waahaa waahaa and changes it to why not this why not that : topics aren't anymore about complaining but instead they about suggesting better ways!

[Lord_Zeus]

Bahamut and others if you haven't read this thread - viewtopic.php?f=101&t=94517 its probably worth reading. Its a bit of a marathon but it displays opinions from both sides... It doesn't continue completely on the tangent that it begins on.

PS: I think the 3 damage thing could be something to do with dividing by 0...

[Dark Bahamut]

oh god 12 pages
anyone wanna gimme a summary?

[Legendary Apophis]

Bahamut and others if you haven't read this thread - viewtopic.php?f=101&t=94517 its probably worth reading. Its a bit of a marathon but it displays opinions from both sides... It doesn't continue completely on the tangent that it begins on.

I did read it lol but too much things talking about past, present, comparing both...I did this thread after thinking of all possible GOOD updates which would not make things worse, big or small updates, that have already been suggested or not, but which haven't yet been implemented, while not being really "spitted on" ever in their original respective threads.

DB this topic is quite arguing of killable uu-skill needed to move on the game vs let uu unkillable-no skills needed but effort to move on. Also some mentions of modifying in various levels the markets, modifying the ATs system or doing a reset for main.

[Mukasa]

maybe if you guys didnt post a topic about it everyday
if you have a problem or some ideas either post it in suggestions or else say it to admin at the admin meeting

if a new player comes onto the forum to have a look around and sees 5 topics saying "SGW is dieing", "wat can we do", " run for your lives"
wat are they gonna think
stop posting useless threads that wont affect anything and use the proper routes for communication with admin

you guys think you are helping but you are just wasting your time and making the forum look horrible
please stop
thanks

word

can a mod PLEASE lock and delete/move ALL other threads that talk bout SGW dieing and only leave this,but rename it to like: "how to make SGW better"....PLEASE?

and i wonder where the hell are ya all when there's admin meeting??

U never know,admin might just read thread bout this if there wasn't 10 of them..most started by the same person....

[Wolf359]

I pretty much agree with all of your suggestions, except introducing an alliance bank - unless it is done properly and has a limit.

I also wouldn't have the market generating ATs at all - the only ATs in the game should be those generated by the players. In fact, the only resource I would have being generated in the market is naq - any bank can, after all, print more money if they wanted to.

If things along these lines were brought in they would solve a lot of the concerns people have in the game. I don't think it's the complete solution - some way of fairly resizing everyone's armies (with compensation in the form of naq) may have to be brought in to counter against the fact that you'd have massive armies and small armies, and an insurmountable task to close the gap due to lack of ATs - but I think it's one of the better proposals I've seen.

Edit - just noticed I'm almost in complete agreement with Borek too! What is the world coming to?

[Mukasa]

I pretty much agree with all of your suggestions, except introducing an alliance bank - unless it is done properly and has a limit.

I also wouldn't have the market generating ATs at all - the only ATs in the game should be those generated by the players. In fact, the only resource I would have being generated in the market is naq - any bank can, after all, print more money of they wanted to.

If things along these lines were brought in they would solve a lot of the concerns people have in the game. I don't think it's the complete solution - some way of fairly resizing everyone's armies (with compensation in the form of naq) may have to be brought in to counter against the fact that you'd have massive armies and small armies, and an insurmountable task to close the gap due to lack of ATs - but I think it's one of the beter proposals I've seen.

agree..with what u said....but COME ON?! taking away army size that some worked hard for? lol....u got to be kidding me...just because some lazy asses don't want to grow and don't raid ALTHOUGH they HAD/HAVE big chance to..and those who do should suffer now because of those lazy asses?

this is said unpolitely but i do get really pissed of when idea like this is presented....and ur right..there are MANY better ways thank taking something away from active player that wants to grow...get real.

[Legendary Apophis]

maybe if you guys didnt post a topic about it everyday
if you have a problem or some ideas either post it in suggestions or else say it to admin at the admin meeting

if a new player comes onto the forum to have a look around and sees 5 topics saying "SGW is dieing", "wat can we do", " run for your lives"
wat are they gonna think
stop posting useless threads that wont affect anything and use the proper routes for communication with admin

you guys think you are helping but you are just wasting your time and making the forum look horrible
please stop
thanks

word

can a mod PLEASE lock and delete/move ALL other threads that talk bout SGW dieing and only leave this,but rename it to like: "how to make SGW better"....PLEASE?

and i wonder where the hell are ya all when there's admin meeting??

U never know,admin might just read thread bout this if there wasn't 10 of them..most started by the same person....

Damn lol my renaming on the topic isn't apparently the right one
Usually I don't stop in "moaning" threads, but "sgw is dying" sounded strong so I got in it and decided to enter the debate, seeing how it went after few days, I decided to bring my suggestions to make something based on solutions and not for solutions (that would come eventually, but not easy to find thru pages of debates).
I know the alliance bank is as much dangerous as unlimited ATs' impact, hence fact it must be limitated and a percentile of something from alliance members with caps must be done. Like as mentionned before, 10% of your bank disappear and goes to alliance bank (your bank is 1tril, you loose 100bil in bank space, but alliance bank gains 100bil, and it fluctuates as your bank does, so if everyone trains assassins/supers strikers, alliance bank will be very small, and all those who criticize how wars go these days will like fact of limitated ressources!).

Wolf your idea about army sizes will not be welcomed as everyone will point the "everyone has same army size".