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Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:43 am
by Almost38
this should be a interesting thread...
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:47 am
by Brdavs
buck wrote:Brdavs wrote:I think that what my compatriots are trying to convey(:P) is that ofcourse it`s your legitimate right to opt to sell to them...
But it`s TLEs legitimate option to react to "supplying" of its enemies, in a hypothetical case by discontionuing existent NAP agreements... For even if such a situation may not be inscribed black&white on said agreement it ought to be obvious to any honest and honorable induvidual that such practice goes against the spirit of the agreement...
You can mince words claiming NAP does not cover this and that, but at the end of the day any agreement stays in place only as long as both sides are willing to have it in place and not a second longer, be there a formal violation" or no...
Do what you have to do... and TLE will do what it has to do. That is all.
Pax
)NAP = A non agression pact , Definition : Non agressive Behaviour between 2 or more alliances, Covering, Farming, Attacking, Sabbing, Spying.
What a nap does not cover : Selling resources.)
Please correct me if that was an incorrect definition, but i do not believe it was.
As i said, If you wish to disscuss that, Im sure KGC will be more than happy to make some space in his diary, I believe he is free tuesday morning?
Now, As it happens i have 5 trillion DMU for sale...Any takers?
Like I said, neither of us really need any particular reason to discontinue our arangement, do we? (I`ll refrain from disputing that trading with the enemy can easily construed as untollerable practice - argued many times by OE even and a given thing in RL when a trade embargo is broken).
TLE Consuls or Omega HCs can wake up tomorrow and decide on a whim that we shake hands and be on our merry "no NAP" way, simple as... No reason whatsoever. (what follows is not the point here lol)
As it happens TLE chose to state in public what it percieves as a reason that *could* possibly prompt it to think of taking said course of action(s)... Ideally to avoid any hickups, and not to prompt them.
You personally may not agree that the before mentioned reason is sufficient for a particular action (such as a NAP cancellation) but that is besides the point (since any NAP is based on mutual consent)...
Legaly speaking TLE does not need to cite breach of contract from your side to withdraw from it ...
Tis all just abstract theorising of course heh
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:56 am
by buck
No no your missing my point, which is key to the arguement...
I dont give a flying pig weather or not you deem a nap to be breached or not, Its the fact you seem to think you can openly threaten people you have naps with, And the fact you are doing that whilst haveing a nap with omega (that sounds funny...) Then you seem to believe you can threaten omega.
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:03 am
by Brdavs
I see no threat... just a statement that TLE may not be interested in having a NAP with any entity essencially supplying its enemy. More of a "announcment/heads up"... wich can be taken as a threath, if you absolutly want to take it as one I guess...
IF the ellimination of the NAP would lead to war that would 99% surelly no longer be the matter of this thread and DMU trades but the numerous skirmishes that would follow, as I`m sure we`re both aware heh.
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:07 am
by blahh
I m severly disapointed.. that our ppl act as they do
I m also disapointed that ppl feel they gotta gun down verbaly arround...
(probably on both sides.. i didnt read all pms)
now IF you thought this was an issue sva.. you should have talked to our naps normaly and ask them not to supply our curent "enemies" as its not in the spirit of iprooving relations.. wich is what naps should lead to... You do not go on forum and tell ppl what they can or can not do... its just not logical and generaly harvest the wrong result..
I was and i still am tired of it.
Now if you wanna talk to them... talk to them its what msn is for... me and jake were just exchanging vievs.. in a way better way than its been done here.
Also due to my tiredness, efective from the end of the war.. i resign from all my positions at TLE and TDL and also as a member of both families.
To put it short I m just too tired of this **Filtered** happening over and over again. So i ll stay till the end of war and i ll do my fair share of work but after that our paths go in different dirrection. I still luv most of you guys, the few that are **Filtered**.. well not much there can be done there but still enoy the game.
@REK dady, you win, if you still want me, after the war i m yours, else i m solo/on the market
@MODS plz lock this topic be4 we get another blood spilling contest just cause some ppl dont know how to handle discusions.
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:15 am
by RepliJake
Thanks Blahh, glad you won't be leaving game.
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:24 am
by InTuItIoN
blahh wrote:@REK dady, you win, if you still want me, after the war i m yours,
The best words written in this thread Mr Blahh!
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:28 am
by Raven
lol this cant get any more pathetic ....... Sva made a statement that anyone helping our enemy will be considered a legal target wich is normal in any war ...... If Omega was in a war and i was asked to sell DMU to their opponent so they could stay alive [wich is totally different then just selling some UU or AT] then i would respect the NaP i signed......But for Jake its prolly just another cheap shot to us......
Blahh.....frankly you can do whatever you want my fun in SGW was long gone anyway but il make sure my last few weeks here will be good......
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:35 am
by RepliJake
Raven wrote:lol this cant get any more pathetic ....... Sva made a statement that anyone helping our enemy will be considered a legal target wich is normal in any war ...... If Omega was in a war and i was asked to sell DMU to their opponent so they could stay alive [wich is totally different then just selling some UU or AT] then i would respect the NaP i signed......But for Jake its prolly just another cheap shot to us......
Blahh.....frankly you can do whatever you want my fun in SGW was long gone anyway but il make sure my last few weeks here will be good......
AWWWWWWWWW
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:37 am
by Raven
General Pain I wrote:Raven wrote:lol this cant get any more pathetic ....... Sva made a statement that anyone helping our enemy will be considered a legal target wich is normal in any war ...... If Omega was in a war and i was asked to sell DMU to their opponent so they could stay alive [wich is totally different then just selling some UU or AT] then i would respect the NaP i signed......But for Jake its prolly just another cheap shot to us......
Blahh.....frankly you can do whatever you want my fun in SGW was long gone anyway but il make sure my last few weeks here will be good......
AWWWWWWWWW
Another post wich will probaby nd up in your all stars top ten
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:39 am
by thorslittleworld
de-ja-vu
sounds familiar to some threads i remember about COP about the big guys pushing the little guys around and telling everyone what to do and what they cant do
LMAO
Blah I hope you do join us, we have had some fun massings, id sponsor you anyday
as for some of TL, a little advise, if you have something to say that incorperates the alliance as a whole, ask your HC for advise or dont post cos I will agree my mouth gets me is soooo much trouble sometimes
foot and mouth comes to mind, anyways I would not be too surprised if a large war suddenly comes into plan
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:57 am
by blahh
svas statement was to ppl selling resources.. and you cant realy tell ppl who they can trade with and who they cant...
Dont give me that bs...
It would be a different story if ppl came here and said i ll give resources to whomever i choose (ye thats sponsoring in a war.. wich is like fighting in a war) but trading resources is a legit bussiness.. and if AE pay fair money.. i dont see why jake/whoever shouldnt sell to them...
I mean if i m buyn uu and ae are selling.. i ll buy from them for gods sake
ITs suppose to be fun (the war that is) not going arround picking evry verbal conflict you can find..
I get you rave.. sgw has lost some of its inicial toutch but still there is fun in it if you know how to find it.. For me.. coming on msn on daily basis and talking about problems ppl create isnt that..
I much prefer talking to ppl about normal stuf, than game related problems some xy person caused.. and the only way for me to do that.. is to get away from tle.. sad but true.. its nothing personal i still luv ya
(ana sends her luv too
)
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:14 pm
by killtacular
Rome crumbling from the seems.
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:25 pm
by Mato
killtacular give me your asc ID and you will see who/what is crumbling.
Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:54 pm
by killtacular
3188 have fun.